The Venetian casino: COMPS information

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December 30th, 2009 at 9:01:08 AM permalink
mantic59
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To follow up with my previous post, I did not get any additional comps from this trip. But I really didn't expect to either: I did raise my bet to $100/hand but I ended up not playing long enough (probably only about an hour per day) because of some other distractions. On the other hand I did come out with a net positive for the trip (playing the 8 deck Venetian/Palazzo games on the BJ spreadsheet available here) so I won't complain. Hopefully I'll get some more decent offers for future trips.

I'm satisfied with myself for playing a good, strong basic strategy game. One evening I was playing at 3rd base with a bunch of newbies. A pit boss was observing the table and when I glanced at her she nodded to me and quietly said "*you* know what you're doing."
January 11th, 2010 at 10:51:26 AM permalink
mantic59
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Quote: Wizard
If the Venetian counts the odds in the average bet amount, they may also depress the "theoretical house edge" for purposes of comps.

From personal experience, I think they give blackjack a very low theoretical. When I switched to pai gow, it seemed to be easier to please them.

I guess this must be what happened to me. I played $100/hand BJ at Venetian this past December, while my wife was playing quarter slots. Now I'm getting offers for $79 rooms. My wife is getting offers for $free rooms. How annoying (though I guess its an advantage of the Club Grazie quirk that our accounts are seperate and can't be combined...we can pick and choose our offers).
January 11th, 2010 at 11:52:47 AM permalink
DJTeddyBear
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Quote: mantic59
I played $100/hand BJ at Venetian this past December, while my wife was playing quarter slots. Now I'm getting offers for $79 rooms. My wife is getting offers for $free rooms.
I find that sort of thing insulting. Nor the rooms, but some of the other perks.

My wife plays slots. I play primarly poker, but also craps and BJ, and sometimes a little video poker.

I know slots players are more profitable and therefore get better offers. I don't have an issue with that.

In fact, she's a Diamond in Harrah's Total Rewards, while I'm a lowly Gold. I get it. I understand.

If we use one of my wife's free rooms instead of my discount rooms, I understand she has to be the one to check in. No complaints.

Some of the perks my wife is entitled to as a Diamond are free valet parking ($20 in A.C. for non-Diamonds) and free access, with guest, to the Diamond lounge, which has a mini buffet. I REALLY do get it. She's entitled. I'm not.

She can bring me in as a guest anytime. But if *I* want to go to the Diamond lounge alone, I can't do it. Why not? My wife is busy gambling with MY money! Does the casino REALLY want me to extricate her from her machine just get me in the door when I want to grab a bite in the lounge? Ditto for the times I want to go to the regular buffet by myself, but want to get the Diamond discount.

Similarly, do they REALLY want her to stop playing so we can claim the car from the valet? That's a job I can do myself while she continues to play a little longer!
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January 19th, 2010 at 10:50:28 AM permalink
teddys
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Hi Folks~
As a followup to my original question in this thread, I played 2x$20 at BJ at Palazzo for an hour. I have just received the "Spring Spectacular" offer for 4 nights comped and $10 slot play . This is my fist Venetian offer. I have never stayed there before.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." ― Rig Veda 10.34.7
January 19th, 2010 at 5:04:23 PM permalink
Wizard
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In the player pecking order, slot players are the kings, and blackjack players are the pawns. It does not surprise me that a quarter slot player would get treated better than a $100 blackjack player.

I'm very surprised the Venetian would give much at all to a $40 blackjack player. Then again, times are tough, and everyone is more generous.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:41:43 PM permalink
mantic59
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Quote: teddys
Hi Folks~
As a followup to my original question in this thread, I played 2x$20 at BJ at Palazzo for an hour. I have just received the "Spring Spectacular" offer for 4 nights comped and $10 slot play . This is my fist Venetian offer. I have never stayed there before.

I just got a 4 night "Springtacular" comp offer as well. I checked their reservations calendar and there are actually some decent mid-week blocks (and a weekend block in April) available. My offer actually has a $25 slot credit or table match play.
April 20th, 2010 at 7:22:04 PM permalink
bruhkgb
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In my personal experience, as a $25/hand BJ player, I'm able to get rooms at Venetian/Palazzo Sunday - Thursday. Surprised I'm able to get that much seeing this is one of the higher-end properties. I haven't been to Vegas in a while, but I still get a fair amount of offers for slot/BJ tournaments (these are usually mid-week) and some random offers for weekend stays (NCAA tourney, Super Bowl, etc).

As pointed out above, my ex-girlfriend is a $.25 slot player. Sheldon Adelson basically lands his personal helicopter on her front yard to bring her in. In other words, she gets rooms here whenever she wants. Still baffles me how someone who puts in 1/10th the action I do gets the world, but as the Wizard points out, slot players are definitely the comp kings.
May 24th, 2010 at 7:14:43 PM permalink
CFTCFT
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I get offers for 3 nights with $25 or 50 promo chips. I think I recently got one from carnival with 2/3 nights and $150 matchplay.

I played table games a bit but no more than an hour a day and prob 25-50 average bet (bit higher on craps with odds but still <100)
July 28th, 2010 at 2:51:31 PM permalink
Et24
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Hi all,

I'm new to the forum here and just want to say thank you all in advance.

Last weekend I went to Palazzo paying normal rates and played a few hundred dollars of slot play (1500 slot points on grazie) and also ate at the hotel a few times. So now I want to plan another trip for the first week of august(9-13) and I'm wondering is there any way that I can receive a comp/partial comp. I've read that people usually get these through the mail but since I'm going soon i don't know if or when I'll get that. Does calling work or is there any "best" way for me to go about this?

Thank you!!
July 28th, 2010 at 3:00:38 PM permalink
JerryLogan
Member since: Jun 28, 2010
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Quote: Et24
Hi all,

I'm new to the forum here and just want to say thank you all in advance.

Last weekend I went to Palazzo paying normal rates and played a few hundred dollars of slot play (1500 slot points on grazie) and also ate at the hotel a few times. So now I want to plan another trip for the first week of august(9-13) and I'm wondering is there any way that I can receive a comp/partial comp. I've read that people usually get these through the mail but since I'm going soon i don't know if or when I'll get that. Does calling work or is there any "best" way for me to go about this?

Thank you!!


The best offers come through the mail there, and they never seem to stop once you get them cranking. If you want, give them a call and ask for a comped room, but absent of any mailer and with as little play as you gave them, I'd expect they'd tell you "We can give you casino rate". If that's good enough for you then you're off and running. Never hurts to try.
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