kewlj
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July 12th, 2014 at 8:50:58 AM permalink
So, I was backed off at south point recently. These things happen. Part of the business of being an AP. The Casino has the right to not want your play. I probably experience 4-6 of these per year now, from different places. Almost all are very polite. Some sort of reference to "you are too good" or "your play is too strong" and then some sort of statement about welcome to play other games, but no more blackjack. This one was no different. Very polite, telling me, I could not play blackjack, but could play other games.

I chose not to cash in my chips to avoid the camera at the cage and instead headed for the front door, calling my partner on the way. My partner was at another casino about 3 miles away playing some of our machine free play offers, so I wanted to let him know that I was ready and would be waiting by the front door.

So, I sit down just outside the front door, the main entrance which serves as valet as well as where the hotel guest all drop off. It was fairly busy at this late AM time. All of the sudden I see a bicycle security guy riding towards me, with a purpose. He comes to a halt in front of me and sternly says that I have to leave the property. I responded that I was told that I was welcome to play any other game in the casino. At this point you could just see the anger building and he literally starts screaming, " This is private property and I want you off the property or I am calling the cops and you will be arrested for trespassing".

Now I didn't really care. It was a little embarrassing because he was screaming so, and the many people around probably thought I was some kind of thief or something, but as I got up and began to walk off property I couldn't help wonder if such an unnecessary display might turn off a few customers who might be dropping off or entering the casino. I could only hope it might. So I walked to the edge of the property, down by the neighboring timeshare property followed by this over-zealous bike security in tow. He kept making threats about if I returned I would be arrested (which I still don't consider that I have been officially trespassed). Finally I just responded how sorry I felt for him, which seemed to anger him even more although he did not respond. At this point I decided to walk up to the corner red light, just because I didn't want him standing there when my ride got there.

Such unprofessional behavior. And this was a grown man, maybe 45 years old, not some 20 year old.
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MrV
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July 12th, 2014 at 9:10:18 AM permalink
Time to put on the T-shirt.

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Buzzard
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July 12th, 2014 at 9:24:12 AM permalink
This is a common illness that affects many in law enforcement. The Mayo clinic and John Hopkins Medical University has both
Termed this disease as the BARNEY FIFE syndrome.
There is no known cure at this time.
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FleaStiff
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July 12th, 2014 at 9:27:15 AM permalink
South Point is a known sweat the money joint but usually their back offs even at the minimums table will be quietly done.
kewlj
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July 12th, 2014 at 9:31:31 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

South Point is a known sweat the money joint but usually their back offs even at the minimums table will be quietly done.



The backoff WAS quietly done. Typical professional, no more BJ, but can play other games. That is the part of the story that is so strange. And obviously this outside ground security was fed information as he came right to me.

"Barney Fife disease" is funny and very accurate description of the problem. LOL.
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Buzzard
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July 12th, 2014 at 9:35:09 AM permalink
I have been trying to start a telethon to seek a cure but so far Jerry Lewis has other commitments.
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GWAE
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July 12th, 2014 at 9:39:18 AM permalink
how do these back offs happen? Does the floor just come up to a full table and say it to you where everyone can hear or do they pull you aside?
kewlj
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July 12th, 2014 at 9:43:28 AM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

I have been trying to start a telethon to seek a cure but so far Jerry Lewis has other commitments.



Actually Jerry Lewis might not work in this situation, since he does a couple weekend gigs each year at South Point.

Usually the pit will try to be as quiet and discrete as possible. Sometimes they ask you to step away from the table, sometimes they just lean in and say it casually.
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teddys
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July 12th, 2014 at 11:47:11 AM permalink
You seem like too nice a guy to do this, but I would have stood my ground. Be polite about it. He has to read to the trespass act before he trespasses you. Then as soon as it's over, call Bob. He might have a nice case.
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July 12th, 2014 at 11:54:12 AM permalink
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