IAchance5
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May 27th, 2013 at 2:42:06 PM permalink
Have you been or stayed at the South Point recently? How is the property? Worth a stay?
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May 27th, 2013 at 3:27:17 PM permalink
Never stayed, but I enjoy the horse book, they know how to take care of the horse players. Added bonus I can smoke my cigars there. I have looked at their suites and seem very nice. I hate to say it but I'm a suite kind of guy. My issue is I drink and there is nothing close to walk to
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May 27th, 2013 at 3:58:55 PM permalink
How are the bars there? Good happy hour specials? I'm just trying to figure out if it would be good for a weekend stay....
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May 27th, 2013 at 4:48:50 PM permalink
Quote: JW17

I can smoke my cigars there.


LOL, that's exactly why I avoid the place. The casino is enormous, but there is no escape from the smoke.

I haven't stayed recently, but the standard rooms should be excellent value, with liberal comp possibilities. One annoyance is that the property layout is designed to force you through the casino to reach the hotel elevators.
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May 27th, 2013 at 6:46:19 PM permalink
So would you say that GVR and RR are the "high rollers" locals joint, whereas the SP is the "everyday guy's" locals joint? Or can you not even compare them because they are in totally different resort classes?
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May 27th, 2013 at 8:22:46 PM permalink
I don't get around enough, but I suppose the top locals places for luxury are RR, GVR, and M Resort.

South Point is at a somewhat lesser level, roughly equivalent to Silverton. But it's superior to any of the Boyd properties, as well as any of the other Stations.
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May 28th, 2013 at 9:20:48 AM permalink
Like all places, it's kind of smoky. It tends to get a lot of families and younger groups and you can get pretty cheap hot dogs last time I was there. (Not sure if it was a promotion, but I think they were 50c each or something.)

The BJ there is kind of weird, relative to common rules: No-peek and limited to 2-hand, 1xMinimum multihand play at the tables.
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May 28th, 2013 at 10:39:16 AM permalink
Quote: gpac1377

I don't get around enough, but I suppose the top locals places for luxury are RR, GVR, and M Resort.
South Point is at a somewhat lesser level, roughly equivalent to Silverton. But it's superior to any of the Boyd properties, as well as any of the other Stations.

South Point is good value for the money. Large clean rooms. Advance internet sales. The casino is fine if you are a legitimate gambler, heaven help you if you are a card counter even at their lowest limit table.
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May 28th, 2013 at 11:22:44 AM permalink
If you are a DI or even a craps player, never play in a sweat joint like it. They will hassle you from the first time you pick up the dice.
I can't believe that anybody that knows anything about the game of craps would play in there with only two times odds!
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May 28th, 2013 at 12:02:01 PM permalink
It is a great value, but if you enjoy visiting different casinos, you could not easily walk from there to the Strip. However, it is very convenient to the airport. I've used it as a, "hang out" place while waiting for folks to phone me that they have arrived. The rooms are standard. Clean, with middle of the pack kinda appointments.

They have a prime rib restaurant that is cheap, and has a nice view, but you get what you pay for. I would not recommend it.

The pool was still closed for the season the last time I stayed there, so I can't comment on it.

There's a fairly large bowling alley on the premises if you enjoy that.

Lot's of families with kids. I saw some clear violations of the "under 21 prohibited from gaming area" regulations, with kids sitting in the chairs in front of the "Wizard of Oz" slot bank by the parking garage doors.
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May 28th, 2013 at 12:15:08 PM permalink
Quote: superrick

If you are a DI or even a craps player, never play in a sweat joint like it. They will hassle you from the first time you pick up the dice.
I can't believe that anybody that knows anything about the game of craps would play in there with only two times odds!



Even the players down there were awful. I was DP$5 and laying 4/10 just for fun over the weekend when a group of kids came up talking about huge sure-win field bets (10$) and then how the jackass in the brown jacket was the worst shooter ever and making them lose a fortune because how he could only land 6/8s.

I found it rather comedic until one of them actually had the gall to grab my arm as I was about to throw. They got kicked off the table for that.

Edit: Oh, and 3.25$ burger+fries at Steak and Shake. They also have a half-off shakes "Happy Hour" at 3 or 4PM, if that's your thing too.
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May 28th, 2013 at 12:34:29 PM permalink
Quote: Venthus

Edit: Oh, and 3.25$ burger+fries at Steak and Shake. They also have a half-off shakes "Happy Hour" at 3 or 4PM, if that's your thing too.



I recall that the "Steak and Shake" had some inconvenient hours for a joint in Las Vegas, closing earlier than I expected (11 pm?).

If you play poker, be advised that the game there is pretty full of locals, so alter your play (or don't play) accordingly.
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May 28th, 2013 at 12:44:55 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I recall that the "Steak and Shake" had some inconvenient hours for a joint in Las Vegas, closing earlier than I expected (11 pm?).

If you play poker, be advised that the game there is pretty full of locals, so alter your play (or don't play) accordingly.



Midnight, and 1AM on the weekends. Past midnight though, the Coronado Cafe has some pretty solid graveyards.
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May 28th, 2013 at 1:19:52 PM permalink
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May 28th, 2013 at 4:15:52 PM permalink
It almost sounds like even the gambling sucks at this place! How is the slots? Pretty good selection? How are the cocktail servers there? All in all, is it worth it to just pay more and stay at the GVR?
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May 28th, 2013 at 4:22:50 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I recall that the "Steak and Shake" had some inconvenient hours for a joint in Las Vegas, closing earlier than I expected (11 pm?).



A Steak n Shake that closes?!?!?! And in Vegas of all places?? WTF is this???

I still want to eventually make it here to play 8/5 Bonus Poker w/Double STP, but God, I can't get over a Steak n Shake that actually closes.
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May 28th, 2013 at 4:24:07 PM permalink
Quote: IAchance5

It almost sounds like even the gambling sucks at this place!



Well, before I was just killing time with craps, I finished the evening up at three different BJ tables with +100%, +300% and +105% of their respective buy-ins. The tables were getting pretty crowded, even around 1AM. Middle of a long weekend though.

One thing that I've heard people comment on, and I agree with, is that the place is unusually well lit.

Drinks come by pretty fast and I've never noticed being skipped over. I'm not a slotter, but they seem to have an interesting assortment of new and old machines available. Also Aruze Shoot to Win craps, if that's your thing. (They've removed Aruze Dealer's Angel BJ.)
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May 28th, 2013 at 4:46:10 PM permalink
Best VP and best cashback in town (0.30%). Dunno why they are stingy with craps and table games. Cocktail waitresses have very nice bunny outfits.
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May 28th, 2013 at 5:20:31 PM permalink
Tremendous value on lodging, drinking/dining, entertainment, and machine play. Not so great on table games. A very solid property and Michael Gaughan (owner) is extremely customer-focused.
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May 28th, 2013 at 5:34:10 PM permalink
Quote: Venthus

The BJ there is kind of weird, relative to common rules: No-peek and limited to 2-hand, 1xMinimum multihand play at the tables.



Does "no peek" actually help in the house edge for us? No casinos where I'm from offer that option....I am also liking not having to double your bet to play 2 hands....
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May 28th, 2013 at 5:43:30 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

If you play poker, be advised that the game there is pretty full of locals, so alter your play (or don't play) accordingly.



By "full of locals", does that mean good players or just guys wanting to get free drinks and see every flop...?
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May 28th, 2013 at 5:48:57 PM permalink
Last time I played it was a bunch of old locals who are nits and like to see a cheap flop. Also South Point has a high hand system where if you get quads or higher you make some money in a progressive system. Locals just wanna flop a high hand so they'll limp a lot.
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May 28th, 2013 at 5:54:22 PM permalink
Quote: IAchance5

Does "no peek" actually help in the house edge for us? No casinos where I'm from offer that option....I am also liking not having to double your bet to play 2 hands....



No, you'll lose doubles and splits when the dealer has a blackjack. It costs the player 0.11%.
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May 29th, 2013 at 12:40:16 AM permalink
Quote: IAchance5

By "full of locals", does that mean good players or just guys wanting to get free drinks and see every flop...?



I mean tight players who are more interested in gabbing and seeing cheap flops than gambling. DJATC above must have been at the same table as me.
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May 29th, 2013 at 12:49:17 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I mean tight players who are more interested in gabbing and seeing cheap flops than gambling. DJATC above must have been at the same table as me.



Unfortunately from what I have read, this is a significant problem off of the strip. 2+2 also clearly points out that LA is a better poker market than Vegas, and LA may be the best poker market in the country, especially for limit. St. Louis is probably worse than most major markets though. :( We probably have the best players when compared to the "Top 10 Casino markets". Something that I really don't want to be bragging about.
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May 29th, 2013 at 1:06:47 AM permalink
Sorry, there is no chance in hell St. Louis has the best poker players... Las Vegas is number one, far and away, for poker player talent. NY/NJ/PA/CT players regionally are close behind, and I would argue the AVERAGE player in NY/NJ/PA/CT is probably better than the average Vegas player... it's just that Vegas has more of the top players.

St. Louis? Come on. I have been to poker rooms in the midwest and the play is not impressive at any level.
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May 29th, 2013 at 3:44:17 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I mean tight players who are more interested in gabbing and seeing cheap flops than gambling. DJATC above must have been at the same table as me.



You mean people hate my preflop raises on every hand I play? Who knew ;)
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May 29th, 2013 at 4:05:20 AM permalink
Quote: Venthus

One thing that I've heard people comment on, and I agree with, is that the place is unusually well lit.

Perhaps because game protection is number one there?
Nothing wrong with the place: large clean rooms, cheap, good, but not great, gambling. What more do you want if you are honest?
Its just not a place to try any black jack shenanigans. You can win or lose but not count.

At craps you can have fun and maybe win a bit, but at 2x odds you ain't gonna be making any headlines.


As to food, most but not all are under their own corporate control as to hours and comp linkages.

Be sure to be on their email list if you play there... they give advance notice of their three day room sales.
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May 29th, 2013 at 4:23:18 AM permalink
Has anyone ever been to the pool area? I heard that it's considered "small" as compared to the size of the property....whatever property that my wife and I stay at on our weekend getaway, we will probably be using the pool and spa (for her) every day...she has already said no to the RR and M due to being too contemporary, so now I've really narrowed it down to GVR or SP....the room prices at the GVR are about 25% more expensive, so I'm trying to figure out what to do....
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May 29th, 2013 at 5:25:51 AM permalink
Small pools are fine if they happen not to be very crowded either, but I've not been.

Spas the M and GVR will probably be to her likeing.

GVR prices range up to 220 but RedRock go as high as two grand in the spa. RR is a large facility too.
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May 29th, 2013 at 10:06:03 AM permalink
Quote: IAchance5

Has anyone ever been to the pool area? I heard that it's considered "small" as compared to the size of the property....whatever property that my wife and I stay at on our weekend getaway, we will probably be using the pool and spa (for her) every day...she has already said no to the RR and M due to being too contemporary, so now I've really narrowed it down to GVR or SP....the room prices at the GVR are about 25% more expensive, so I'm trying to figure out what to do....



The Wizard has a review of the properties you can check out by clcking on the "Hotels" button at the top of the page. Note that when he mentions the "spa" at South Point, I think he is referring to a jacuzzi.

I'm not sure what, "too contemporary" looks like, if Red Rock is in that category. Too many glass walls, and too much natural lighting?
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October 4th, 2016 at 8:43:39 AM permalink
How does this thread, with no reply in 4+ years, make my top 13 list?????
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October 4th, 2016 at 8:47:01 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

How does this thread, with no reply in 4+ years, make my top 13 list?????


For some strange reason, when I replied to a different thread, I was marked as having posted to this thread at the same time.

It could also have something to do with the fact that this thread, started at about the same time, has no posts in it.
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October 4th, 2016 at 2:25:07 PM permalink
Some Voodoo MoFo be messin' wid de Forums looks like....

Just a guess.

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October 4th, 2016 at 5:23:13 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

For some strange reason, when I replied to a different thread, I was marked as having posted to this thread at the same time.

It could also have something to do with the fact that this thread, started at about the same time, has no posts in it.

Yeah intriguing. I'm dying to know what the question was. The recent threads was screwed up earlier today I noticed that it was showing new comments, but none there.
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