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March 2nd, 2010 at 3:56:35 PM permalink
nyuhoosier
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Has anyone taken advantage of the $200 or so in free slot play you get for signing up for a player's card? Is this a joke or can you actually win money?
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:10:30 PM permalink
gentlemanloser
Member since: Nov 15, 2009
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I've received $10 in free slot play from the Venetian, and could only use it on specially tagged machines of which there are a lot.

Won $120. Cashed out, played a dollar slot machine, which was similarly tagged.

It had three standard reels, and a fourth video reel. Hit the jackpot, then the video reel spun again, giving a 4x multiplier, so all the reels spun four times in a row, each time landing on the same jackpot.

Won over $2400. Security and a slot attendant came out, made me fill out a W-2G form, and paid me out in cash.


So, yes, you can win. From $10 free slots credit from signing up, to >$2400 bucks.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:40:15 PM permalink
dlevinelaw
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What is the current promotion? I'll be there tomorrow.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:18:55 PM permalink
FinsRule
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Regarding the Hooters promotion, it is not valid at all slots. It's only valid at special slots that do not payback much at all. The Wizard talked about this in some forum, I forget the exact amount, but he said the $200 slot play had an EV of around $10.

I vote don't do it.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:29:06 PM permalink
Wizard
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I talk about that in my Hooter's review. As the above post said, it must be played on designated slots, with the value significantly less than $200. There is a similar promotion at the Casino Royale. I think both are blatant false advertising. I have half a mind to write a letter of complaint to the Gaming Control Board about it.
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March 3rd, 2010 at 8:09:54 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Wizard
I talk about that in my Hooter's review. As the above post said, it must be played on designated slots, with the value significantly less than $200. There is a similar promotion at the Casino Royale. I think both are blatant false advertising. I have half a mind to write a letter of complaint to the Gaming Control Board about it.


Hear, hear!

When I went to Casino Royale, the slot "free" play was good onlu for one bank of machines, and the only thing you could win was the big jackpot. Otherwise you were just there spinning reels until the "free" money ran out. At one point I was up substantially, but the employee in charge told me I couldn't cash out.

That was my most boring time in Vegas.
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March 3rd, 2010 at 11:25:55 AM permalink
Wizard
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I'm still considering doing that. Let me bounce it off of my attorney first, to see if he thinks I have a legitimate argument. I see the Hooter's web site says it is "promotional" slot play. That word I think gets them off the hook. However, the Casino Royale web site has no such qualifier. Yet I hate to come down on the Casino Royale, because some of the other coupons they give new players are pretty good.

Working against me is Vegas has a long history of this trick. For several years the Vegas World (now the Stratosphere) ran an aggressive promotion in lots of magazines for a $1,000 Vegas vacation for $399. Much of that $1,000 was in promotional slot play, worth about 10% of face value. Nobody ever stopped them from that deception as far as I know.
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March 3rd, 2010 at 11:49:39 AM permalink
Croupier
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I hate to side with the big casino companies here, and i know these offers are only worth a fraction a face value, but surely it is better to get something for nothing, and is a good idea for getting people through the doors.

I do agree that the promotional offers should be clearly signposted, and bait and switches are unfair, some people are more than happy to get these offers. normally it is people not as clued up as people in this site, and those that know better can choose not to take the offers if they object.

I do not work for either of the named casinos, and am playing devils advocate. But it is my personal belief that you may be being a bit hard on these (admittedly cynical) marketing ploys.
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March 3rd, 2010 at 12:20:56 PM permalink
Nareed
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I wouldn't have minded the Royale promo had the coupon said "$20 for a chance at the big jackpot." Because that's what the promotion was. The coupon, however, said free slot play, which it wasn't.

At the Riviera the free play was restricted to some machines, but you could cash out when you used it up, likewise at other properties.

BTW my dad sued to tell a story of a man who advertised miniature portraits of George Washington for $25. Upon payment he sent a $1 bill to each customer. I can think of ways of describing a $1 bill as a miniature portrait, a limited print run, each authenticated with its very own serial number! Printed on high-quality, linen-based paper meant to last a long time!

It's still fraud, beacsue you're offering something of lesser value than the price you charge for it (hey, free shipping!!!), and you leave out essential information to identify the object as what it is.
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March 3rd, 2010 at 12:58:10 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: Croupier
I hate to side with the big casino companies here, and i know these offers are only worth a fraction a face value, but surely it is better to get something for nothing, and is a good idea for getting people through the doors.


Fair point. However, some people may spend time and money to get to the casino to do the promotion. For example, if somebody downtown took a cab both ways to Hooters for the $200 promotion they would be out about $60 in cab fare. The Vegas Club offer was not even free, it was a part of something that cost $399. I think the comparison to the George Washington portraits is a good one.
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