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July 19th, 2011 at 10:37:39 PM permalink
Tiltpoul
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Interestingly enough, there is an electronic table with the fake dealer near that pit, close to the entrance over there. That machine is a $10 minimum, and 6-5 payout. That's the first time I've seen that on one of those machines.
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July 19th, 2011 at 11:34:13 PM permalink
teddys
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Someone's got to pay for all those Dolls and that Roman statuary. Ooo-eeee!
"If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss..." -Rudyard Kipling
July 22nd, 2011 at 7:18:21 PM permalink
JohnnyQ
Member since: Nov 3, 2009
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A general question:

How do you know what all the Double/Split/Surrender
rules are at any given game ?

Do you have to ask ?

Usually, I don't see them listed anywhere at the table.

And I feel silly if I ask.
Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand
July 22nd, 2011 at 9:44:55 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: JohnnyQ
A general question:

How do you know what all the Double/Split/Surrender
rules are at any given game ?

Do you have to ask ?


Yes. I wish everybody would just post them, but they don't. For my blackjack survey I just have to ask the same questions over and over:

1. Can the player double after a split?
2. Can the player surrender?
3. Can the player re-split aces?
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
July 22nd, 2011 at 11:22:47 PM permalink
HotBlonde
Member since: Feb 8, 2011
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Quote: Wizard
I was on the Strip today, in part to update my blackjack survey. I was surprised to learn of of the following game at Caesar's Palace:

6 decks
Dealer hits soft 17
No double after split
No surrender
No re-splitting aces
And, get this, double on 10 and 11 only

Granted, it isn't as bad as 6-5. Is it just me or does anyone else think that adding the rule about doubling on 10 and 11 only, on top of every possible bad rule already, is kind of egregious?
To me this is worrisome. It seems that a lot of casinos are getting stingier and stingier. That it's on a roll to get worse. Wasn't it at Bill's where every single table paid no more than 6-5? I usually prefer to play at the MGM casinos cuz they don't seem to be as bad as many of the other casinos.

And btw, what was the minimum on this table you're talking about?

Quote: Tiltpoul
And I can't believe you've NEVER seen anybody double a hard 12 at a table. I see it happen quite a bit.
Why would anyone double a hard 12? I'm assuming this is a card counting tactic?
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July 23rd, 2011 at 4:32:40 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Aug 8, 2010
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Quote: HotBlonde


Why would anyone double a hard 12? I'm assuming this is a card counting tactic?


It is either an I'm too stupid tactic or I'm too drunk tactic.
July 23rd, 2011 at 8:26:51 AM permalink
buzzpaff
Member since: Mar 8, 2011
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Quote: Wizard
I've never once seen anyone double are hard 12 or more in a casino. In live home games I've seen it. Fortunately, I was dealing at the time.

While the effect for the basic strategy player adds 0.18% to the house edge, in reality I think it adds much less. Some players do correctly double on 9, but only stone cold basic strategy players seem to know, or practice, the soft doubles.


Was standard play in Colorado for 20 years when Max bet was $5. Only way to get more action. And of course the infamous Colorado Split. Especially infuriating when 3rd base split 10's. The last 10 years DD hard 12 and split 10's diminished slightly
with introduction of Streak side bet. On my last visit to Blackhawk/ Central City, there was only 1 Streak table left due to limits now being $100. But Fortune Valley, formerly Harvey's, soon to be Hard Rock, still has Harvey's original, one and only, Wheel Of
Madness. LOL Colorado is strange, WIZ. Remember Let it Ride 10 years ago at the Isle where a side bet reduced the HE ???
Buzz Paff
July 28th, 2011 at 10:41:36 AM permalink
hook3670
Member since: May 17, 2011
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I was at the New Orleans harrah's about four years ago and there was a group of younger oriental gentlemen. They were pretty drunk and having a good time playing BJ. These guys doubled down on almost every hand. Hard 13's 14's didnt matter. At first it drew a lot of attenttion because they won their first two times, but they quickly got killed.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:51:56 PM permalink
Tiltpoul
Member since: May 5, 2010
Threads: 28
Posts: 1133
Quote: Wizard
I was on the Strip today, in part to update my blackjack survey. I was surprised to learn of of the following game at Caesar's Palace:

6 decks
Dealer hits soft 17
No double after split
No surrender
No re-splitting aces
And, get this, double on 10 and 11 only

Granted, it isn't as bad as 6-5. Is it just me or does anyone else think that adding the rule about doubling on 10 and 11 only, on top of every possible bad rule already, is kind of egregious?


I have a picture from the Pleasure Pit at Caesars. It is 6:5 on the BJ with all the rules you posted. I'm not sure how to load the picture up here, if anybody can help me...

The rules are the same for the poolside BJ as well.
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