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January 19th, 2012 at 2:15:16 PM permalink

P90

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Quote: thecesspit
It used to be 20 points of power, where users got a point per month of being here, up to a maximum of X (10?). I think the Number of points to remove a post went up, as it was too easy for two veteran users to remove a borderline post they didn't like (and happened... though the person it happened to was banned a few weeks later... )

Perhaps the system could be revamped to simply split users into "trusted" (some minimum like 100 posts+1 month) and "not trusted". It's pretty clear that the correlation between time on the site and responsibility is not linear, and there's little need for separation beyond filtering out sockpuppets and complete newcomers.

Do you mean mkl or JL, BTW?

January 19th, 2012 at 2:19:47 PM permalink

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Quote: P90
Perhaps the system could be revamped to simply split users into "trusted" (some minimum like 100 posts+1 month) and "not trusted". It's pretty clear that the correlation between time on the site and responsibility is not linear, and there's little need for separation beyond filtering out sockpuppets and complete newcomers.

That's kind of how it works now. However, I think I've come up with an even better solution. Logic similar to the above is only part of it.

January 19th, 2012 at 2:27:33 PM permalink
P90 Member since: Jan 8, 2011 Threads: 7 Posts: 1116	Assigning different post removal/hiding threshold depending on time on the site (with very low threshold for fresh registrations) should certainly take some part in it, if it doesn't already, IMO.

January 19th, 2012 at 2:42:16 PM permalink
thecesspit Member since: Apr 19, 2010 Threads: 38 Posts: 3105	Quote: P90 Do you mean mkl or JL, BTW? Nope, was after them. It was that mad "professor" I suspect JL sock puppets also had posts flagged. "Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept through nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire, for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829

January 19th, 2012 at 3:30:09 PM permalink

mrjjj

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Quote: rdw4potus
That's because muting you is in the best interest of the forum.

I think we can take you off the short list for a mod. (lol)

Ken

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January 19th, 2012 at 3:31:21 PM permalink
whatme Member since: Apr 28, 2011 Threads: 4 Posts: 71	I dont post alot, however I read alot. I get that I'm not known to the Wiz and should not have as much power as people who do. BUT when it comes to spam its just so annoying that I want the power to remove it (unless its in free speach) So why not mark the person as a spamer which would put the posts (including new ones) in a spam location untill the Wiz or jb review it?

January 19th, 2012 at 3:35:33 PM permalink

mrjjj

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Quote: JB
Everyone here is a moderator, just not with complete control.

That's pretty close to how it was originally, however, it has since changed, and will now change again.

Sometimes. The exact formula is a secret.

The underlying problem is that members are (currently) only banned manually, therefore the spammer was able to keep starting new threads no matter how many times his posts were flagged.

So obviously what is needed is a form of automatic banning. I think I have come up with a way to implement it that will minimize the chance of legitimate members getting banned (i.e. people who have their posts flagged by other people who simply don't like them), which I am discussing with the Wizard.

Thank you to everyone who flagged this guy's posts! Once automatic banning is implemented, your efforts at flagging spammers will be far more effective than they were this time.

"Once automatic banning is implemented, your efforts at flagging spammers will be far more effective" >>> 'Spammers' we're talking? Well thats good, very cool.

Ken

January 19th, 2012 at 3:41:23 PM permalink

mrjjj

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"I get that I'm not known to the Wiz and should not have as much power as people who do" >>> What? If you're one of the good guys, why should you even need to explain yourself? ........regardless of who has or has not been a regular here for a long time.

Ken

January 19th, 2012 at 3:56:33 PM permalink

DJTeddyBear

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Quote: P90
Quote: DJTeddyBear
Yeah, If I were to come up with some automated limitations, it would be:...
That's overly restrictive and only addresses the issue of this weird bot that doesn't spam multiple accounts. ....

I understand your objections.

I thought of a new "restriction" that will probably work and be agreeable:

New members cannot post for the first 5 minutes.

I think this will effectively kill the spam bots, while only mildly inconveniencing real new members.

Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood?

January 19th, 2012 at 3:58:57 PM permalink
EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6383	Quote: DJTeddyBear New members cannot post for the first 5 minutes. Or can only post once in the first 24hrs. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood

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