AxelWolf
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November 30th, 2016 at 11:48:22 AM permalink
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The reason to go to new openings is to find the mistakes. Some of the new video poker machines have thousands of setup options and you may be the one person who finds the $5 17/10 Loose Deuces game that the employee accidentally put in instead of the 15/8 that is was supposed to be. You may be able to play it for a few days before the mistake is realized.

Or something significantly better. I'm highly surprised with his 8 years of AP during all the casino grand openings he didn't know this(of course he will claim he did).

1 Casino grand opening on average was worth more than he made in a couple of months. Oftentimes with little or no risk, including plays over 200%.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Joeshlabotnik
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November 30th, 2016 at 4:49:40 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

You have only just now noticed that?

You need to play catch up as there's some interesting things regarding him and AP.

Remember he said he was an AP for 8 years himself during the "golden 90's"



Well, Axel, one of the reasons I stopped was that APs started getting greedy and were beginning to burn out plays as fast as they appeared. Descending on a newly opened casino and hoping to find and pounce on a mistake is an example of that--it draws too much attention. For a while, in the 90s, there were as many good plays as there were APs, at least it seemed. But you know what? We didn't abuse good plays. We didn't play something to death, we treated the employees right, we milked the cow instead of killing it. But soon there came a thundering herd of wannabe APs whose mentality was slash-and-burn.

It became a self-fulfilling prophecy. They all thought you had to leap on a play and devour it like a pack of starving wolves because it would be gone soon anyway. And that attitude hastened the very results they were trying to prevent.

An an example, I remember when the Bellagio opened. At first, they had HUNDREDS of bonusing slots. It was a freakin' candy store. Then some players started hovering at the ends of banks of those machines, When a ploppy got off a Cherry Pie or whatever, they would DASH for the seat--sometimes two or three at once. Also, if a ploppy had a few cherries to go but only a few credits left, they would stare at the player as if willing them to quit before they cashed in the bonus. They eventually became so obnoxious, between harassing customers and getting into fights among themselves, that management tossed them out--AND removed all but a few of the bonusing machines.

Today, there are a LOT of APs out there trying to divide up a very small pie. The AP world is dog-eat-dog now, and that attitude and mindset pretty much ensure that no good play will last long, Jump on it. Play it to death. Burn it out. Move along. No discretion, no self-control. And yeah, most of the APs I've encountered recently are jumpy, surly, temperamental, and generally no fun to be around. Probably the nature of the pursuit more than anything else.
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November 30th, 2016 at 5:58:31 PM permalink
Quote: joeshlabotnik

Well, Axel, one of the reasons I stopped was that APs started getting greedy and were beginning to burn out plays as fast as they appeared.



Surely that was one of the least important reasons though, right? Or are you insinuating you couldn't keep up and get on better (than scavenging) plays?
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November 30th, 2016 at 7:05:50 PM permalink
Surprised this casino didn't make Anthony Curtis Dec 2016 top ten Vegas values
Usually a new opening usually makes the list
Maybe still waiting on the "official" opening

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/topten.cfm
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December 1st, 2016 at 3:59:56 AM permalink
Haven't really chimed in on these but joeslobot- you sound disgruntled to say the least- most likely you
Could not even cut it as an ap. Saying there are few opportunities out there just shows you how little you know. I have been on 3 of my largest plays just in the last 3 months and without naming names names or plays have worked with numerous people on this site on others.
You really should just go to a forex board
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onenickelmiracle
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December 1st, 2016 at 4:20:30 AM permalink
Will people not Asian feel comfortable here, feel treated the same, not nudged to just feel tolerated?
Looks like sh!t just got imaginary!
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December 1st, 2016 at 8:05:33 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Will people not Asian feel comfortable here, feel treated the same, not nudged to just feel tolerated?



I think it's up to the non-Asian. There are some aspects of playing with Asians that are very attractive; they usually know the games they sit down to, they're very direct about resolving problems, they like to play fast and efficient (with the notable exception of baccarat ), and they're funny and having a good time or getting up fast.

So if a non-Asian walks into a casino designed for and attracting Asians, there's a different vibe. You have to have a thick skin, but once you demonstrate you're not a road block with money, they accept you pretty well. They just wait to see if you're a serious player regardless of bet level before they interact, in my experience anyway. My advice is to flow with it or find another place you like better. All fwiw.
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onenickelmiracle
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December 1st, 2016 at 8:16:18 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I think it's up to the non-Asian. There are some aspects of playing with Asians that are very attractive; they usually know the games they sit down to, they're very direct about resolving problems, they like to play fast and efficient (with the notable exception of baccarat ), and they're funny and having a good time or getting up fast.

So if a non-Asian walks into a casino designed for and attracting Asians, there's a different vibe. You have to have a thick skin, but once you demonstrate you're not a road block with money, they accept you pretty well. They just wait to see if you're a serious player regardless of bet level before they interact, in my experience anyway. My advice is to flow with it or find another place you like better. All fwiw.

I mainly had in mind how the casino would treat people.
Looks like sh!t just got imaginary!
UCivan
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December 1st, 2016 at 8:28:16 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Will people not Asian feel comfortable here, feel treated the same, not nudged to just feel tolerated?

Will Asian people feel comfortable at Bellagio, Planet Hollywood, Cosmopolitan, Aria, etc, feel treated the same, not nudged to just feel tolerated?

For Lucky Dragon, The COO is Mr. David Jacoby and the President and CEO is Mr. Andrew Fonfa, both are non-Asian. So as a non-Asian, you should feel welcome there.
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December 1st, 2016 at 9:00:35 AM permalink
Quote: UCivan

Will Asian people feel comfortable at Bellagio, Planet Hollywood, Cosmopolitan, Aria, etc, feel treated the same, not nudged to just feel tolerated?

For Lucky Dragon, The COO is Mr. David Jacoby and the President and CEO is Mr. Andrew Fonfa, both are non-Asian. So as a non-Asian, you should feel welcome there.



I see your point but bad example. None of those casinos specifically say they cater to one race of people over another. If Bellagio came out and said they only catered to Europeans, or Africans, non Europeans/Africans would wonder if they would feel comfortable there.

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