PeterMorris
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April 13th, 2010 at 5:48:46 PM permalink
I'm looking for a couple of features which I've seen on other forums. I can't see them here.

First, there is usually a link with "forum tools" giving access to such features as "search this forum" and "subscribe to this forum"

Secondly, there's "User CP" which shows me3 a list of my subscribed forums, and subscri8bed threads with new posts.



I can't see these features here. Have they been enabled? Can I subscribe to my favourite forums ? If so, how do I do it?
odiousgambit
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April 14th, 2010 at 1:27:05 AM permalink
Quote: PeterMorris

I'm looking for a couple of features which I've seen on other forums. I can't see them here.

First, there is usually a link with "forum tools" giving access to such features as "search this forum" and "subscribe to this forum"

Secondly, there's "User CP" which shows me3 a list of my subscribed forums, and subscri8bed threads with new posts.



I can't see these features here. Have they been enabled? Can I subscribe to my favourite forums ? If so, how do I do it?



You've just missed these things, what you want is here I think, as long as you mean "threads". But to subscribe to a thread, you must "enter" one of the messages first, then you will see the "subscribe" icon near the top under the large thread title.

To search, be on any page and look across the icons at the top. It's between "shows" and "about" icons.
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DJTeddyBear
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April 14th, 2010 at 5:42:23 AM permalink
You can also change your preferences to automatically subscribe any thread that you've posted in.

Of course, if you're like me and post a lot, that generates a LOT of mail. I turned that off almost immediately!


Bottom line: This board doesn't use the same software as most boards, but it has most of the same features - if you look for them.
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thecesspit
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July 21st, 2010 at 10:14:48 AM permalink
Does this board have a 'last read feature'. I'm fidning it increasingly hard to keep track of what I've been reading, and it'd be great if I could jump straight to the last read message of a thread, not the bottom the thread and have to work my way back.
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Melman
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July 21st, 2010 at 9:58:51 PM permalink
I have the "Recent Threads" page bookmarked. This looks at all the forums. However, as these boards become more popular, there's more and more garbage to wade through.
ruascott
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July 21st, 2010 at 11:49:21 PM permalink
Quote: Melman

I have the "Recent Threads" page bookmarked. This looks at all the forums. However, as these boards become more popular, there's more and more garbage to wade through.



Ha..that's the truth
DJTeddyBear
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July 22nd, 2010 at 4:56:58 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Does this board have a 'last read feature'. I'm fidning it increasingly hard to keep track of what I've been reading, and it'd be great if I could jump straight to the last read message of a thread, not the bottom the thread and have to work my way back.

I'd like that feature too.

I'd also like the threads that have more than 10 pages to show the first couple AND last couple pages as links on the recent threads page. I often go to the page BEFORE the last page, so I can review what I had last read...

Of course, if there was a method of going directly to the last post that I had seen, that would be better.


JB, any chance of this happening?
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thecesspit
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August 9th, 2010 at 8:38:01 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I'd like that feature too.

I'd also like the threads that have more than 10 pages to show the first couple AND last couple pages as links on the recent threads page. I often go to the page BEFORE the last page, so I can review what I had last read...

Of course, if there was a method of going directly to the last post that I had seen, that would be better.


JB, any chance of this happening?



Bump? Anyone? Bueller?
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Melman
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August 10th, 2010 at 10:12:04 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Bump? Anyone? Bueller?



OK, I'll keep this thread alive.

All the message-board software packages that I know of, have a "Mark As Read" ability.

So what's the deal with these forums? Why don't they have it? Does it simply need to be turned on?

And no, subscribing to threads is not an acceptable substitute. I would like to be able to bring up the "Recent Threads" page, and click on any threads of interest, and view only the new posts in those threads. That's not an unreasonable request.
thecesspit
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August 19th, 2010 at 3:44:37 PM permalink
You see, what I have noticed is that threads that get off the recent threads list tend to disappear and become inactive, even if there was a previously robust debate going on there.
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Melman
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August 22nd, 2010 at 11:31:10 AM permalink
But many threads that stay on the "recent threads" list, eventually will go on for many pages. Why should I have to remember where I was on my last visit? Did I leave off on page 3 or page 7?

All message-board SW packages that I know of, support a "go to first unread message in this thread" capability. I don't understand why that feature is missing or disabled here.

Really would like one of Those In Charge to comment about this.
thecesspit
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August 24th, 2010 at 11:55:47 AM permalink
Quote: Melman

But many threads that stay on the "recent threads" list, eventually will go on for many pages. Why should I have to remember where I was on my last visit? Did I leave off on page 3 or page 7?

All message-board SW packages that I know of, support a "go to first unread message in this thread" capability. I don't understand why that feature is missing or disabled here.

Really would like one of Those In Charge to comment about this.



I agree, what I was saying was that those that disappear from the recent threads can die suddenly as no-one spots that there's new discussion in the thread for them... even if your just scanning through a single forum or two.

Would be nice if JB or the Wizard would comment. I'd ping them directly, by PM's don't seem to be turned on either.
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thecesspit
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August 31st, 2010 at 8:13:09 AM permalink
I guess the Wizard and JB don't read this section?

Sigh...
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Melman
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September 11th, 2010 at 10:57:14 AM permalink
Bumping this again. I've not been here for a couple weeks and the lack of any "last read" feature is terribly frustrating. All message-board software supports this so I don't understand why it it missing here.

Wizard/JB, please respond.
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September 18th, 2010 at 6:44:42 AM permalink
I'll bring this up with JB.
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September 18th, 2010 at 7:35:36 AM permalink
Especially in the current environment where one poster is spamming the board with junk unrelated to the conversation(s) at hand, this would be a very nice feature. I literally can't tell what is new in a given thread when the entire recent post section is 1 spammed Mrjjj response to NOBODY.
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Melman
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October 3rd, 2010 at 9:28:44 PM permalink
Bumping yet again. These forums are now impossible to use without the ability to keep track of what you've already read.
DJTeddyBear
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October 4th, 2010 at 5:40:24 AM permalink
I agree, but there is a simple solution that kinda works:

Instead of going to the individual forums, use the recent posts feature: https://wizardofvegas.com/recent/

There is no indication of what you've seen already, but the posts DO indicate the date & time of the last post for each thread. Unfortunately, it lists it in Vegas time, so you have to do a little mental gymnastics to remember the time last visited, and convert that to Vegas time. But it works....
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Melman
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October 5th, 2010 at 9:32:43 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Instead of going to the individual forums, use the recent posts feature



As I wrote above, this is how I have always accessed the forums. It's better than nothing, but not much. I still have to remember approximately when I was last here (sometimes it's several days) and then in each thread I look at, I have to guess at what I've read already and what's new. For long threads, this is hopeless.

The thing is, message board software packages solved all these problems YEARS AGO. Just turn them on!! What is the problem here?
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October 5th, 2010 at 10:03:07 PM permalink
Quote: Melman


The thing is, message board software packages solved all these problems YEARS AGO. Just turn them on!! What is the problem here?



I think the problem is that JB built these forums from the ground up rather than using a software package. I personally think he did a great job.
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thecesspit
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October 6th, 2010 at 11:34:23 AM permalink
Quote: Croupier

I think the problem is that JB built these forums from the ground up rather than using a software package. I personally think he did a great job.



Indeed, but I still find it hard to find my place, and really only use the latest posts feature... which waste so much potentiality of discussion and results in long spiralling threads, while other die still born.
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Croupier
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October 6th, 2010 at 12:02:25 PM permalink
I do agree that it can be difficult to follow the longer threads. I have missed out on some of the longer discussions, but luckily for me from what I gleaned from quick scans they are about things I dont understand much about, namely theoretical probablitlities, and craps.
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Melman
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October 7th, 2010 at 10:30:26 PM permalink
Quote: Croupier

I think the problem is that JB built these forums from the ground up rather than using a software package. I personally think he did a great job.



Oh, I can't imagine that. There would be no point in coding a forum system from scratch. And this setup is not "great" - it's primitive and missing some really basic stuff.

But I really wish he would chime in, so we can stop guessing.
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October 7th, 2010 at 11:07:40 PM permalink
Quote: Melman

And this setup is not "great" - it's primitive and missing some really basic stuff.



Meh, its better than I could do and its great to me. As far as Im concened it gets the job done.
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October 8th, 2010 at 1:19:49 AM permalink
Quote: Melman

Oh, I can't imagine that. There would be no point in coding a forum system from scratch. And this setup is not "great" - it's primitive and missing some really basic stuff.

But I really wish he would chime in, so we can stop guessing.


It is correct that I coded the forum from scratch, as it was originally intended to be a simple forum without all of the bloat that other forums have.

There is always a trade-off between speed and functionality. I agree that it is still somewhat difficult to follow recent discussions and figure out what you have read and what you haven't. There is a 'mark as read' function (just go into a forum group and click the Mark as Read button that appears near the top of the list), but as mentioned it is still rather primitive. I realize this has been a 'solved problem' for quite some time, but none of the solutions are particularly elegant from a programming perspective.

One of the things I still need to do, and soon, is assemble a FAQ/help guide for the forum system; I will make a post in this thread once that is available.
thecesspit
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October 11th, 2010 at 10:05:51 AM permalink
Quote: JB

It is correct that I coded the forum from scratch, as it was originally intended to be a simple forum without all of the bloat that other forums have.

There is always a trade-off between speed and functionality. I agree that it is still somewhat difficult to follow recent discussions and figure out what you have read and what you haven't. There is a 'mark as read' function (just go into a forum group and click the Mark as Read button that appears near the top of the list), but as mentioned it is still rather primitive. I realize this has been a 'solved problem' for quite some time, but none of the solutions are particularly elegant from a programming perspective.

One of the things I still need to do, and soon, is assemble a FAQ/help guide for the forum system; I will make a post in this thread once that is available.



Cheers, the site is looking much more functional now. I can find stuff I've been reading quicker, and catch up quicker.

Whether I should some times is not under your control :)
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