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rdw4potus
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May 15th, 2017 at 7:35:01 PM permalink
Why not participate? Unless your participation results in more of your email addresses becoming known, or it results in your receipt of extra newsletters, you have nothing left to "lose".
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DRich
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May 16th, 2017 at 6:14:36 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

I suppose asking for a ban is just as stupid as a self casino ban, easy to just no longer participate.



Most Nevada companies enforce a one year ban if you sign up for the self-exclusion program. If you are curious, you can go up to the cage at almost every casino and just ask for a copy of their self exclusion paperwork. You don't have to fill it out. There could also be an AP play if it is a casino you weren't planning on going back to. Fill out the paperwork which creates a lot of overhead for the casino. If they send you any future mailers or emails you have a legitimate case against them for damages. Some people have went back to the casino after getting a mailer and gambled big. If they lose they may be able to get their losses back. If they win they scoot out very quickly before being noticed.
AxelWolf
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May 16th, 2017 at 1:13:01 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Most Nevada companies enforce a one year ban if you sign up for the self-exclusion program. If you are curious, you can go up to the cage at almost every casino and just ask for a copy of their self exclusion paperwork. You don't have to fill it out. There could also be an AP play if it is a casino you weren't planning on going back to. Fill out the paperwork which creates a lot of overhead for the casino. If they send you any future mailers or emails you have a legitimate case against them for damages. Some people have went back to the casino after getting a mailer and gambled big. If they lose they may be able to get their losses back. If they win they scoot out very quickly before being noticed.

Is this public record? I would love to read more.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
DJTeddyBear
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BozZuga
May 17th, 2017 at 7:08:35 AM permalink
Apparently, I was naughty, and had to sit in a corner for three days. Then on DAY FOUR I contacted Mike to lift the suspension. I do NOT blame him for the delay since it wasn't his decision to suspend me. Fortunately I have Mike's email address...

Anyway, I'm back. Did ya miss me?


Before I comment on the topic, I gotta comment on the suspension itself.

First, I originally didn't even know I was suspended. I received neither email nor private message about it. It took two visits and some investigation on my part to figure it out. Shouldn't some sort of notification accompany a suspension? Particularly when the member is regular poster and otherwise in good standing?

On one visit, I wanted to respond to something in the first newsletter thread, but the reply buttons were gone. I assumed the thread was locked. I then noticed that the post/reply buttons were missing entirely. I figured maybe there was some database maintenance going on. But I DID notice that Eliot had changed his signature to "Resident nut-job". That made me smile. I guess Eliot enjoys being something of a pot-stirrer.

On the next visit, I saw that the buttons were still missing, but that other people were posting. WTF? I finally saw my own name in brown. Uh-oh. What did I do to earn this? I had to go digging to find the discussion about the suspension list to see why I was suspended. I had to read it twice before I realized that it was the nut-job comment that someone took offense to.

Yesterday I saw Eliot's post from two days ago, where he quoted my nut-job comment and challenged a moderator to do something about it. Interestingly, he suggested that either Zuga or I be suspended. That makes me think he agrees with my assessment of Zuga's "Meh" comment. He also changed his signature again. It now reads "Retired nut-job and traitor once removed". Was he expecting or planning to get suspended as well for something?


Anyway, to the nut-job comment itself.

No, I don't really think Eliot is a nut-job. And I'd be shocked to learn that Eliot was truly offended by the comment. I suspect that the next time I run into him, we will have a mutual laugh about this whole incident. And I really think that it ranks rather low on a scale of insults. So low that I didn't realize that it was the cause of the suspension.

On the other hand, I DO think Eliot's complaints were excessive, and stand by the remainder of the post that contained the nut-job comment. Do I really think Zuga's "meh" was a nice way for Zuga to call Eliot a nut-job? Frankly, I don't know.

It should be noted that a few people used the Thanks button on that post, one of whom was Zuga. Since Zuga never quoted any portion of that post, I can't know if Zuga was thanking me for my support, or for the nut-job comment, or some combination.

It should also be noted that several members agreed with my nut-job assessment.

Does that make it OK? No.

As I said, I find it hard to believe Eliot was really offended, particularly considering the signature line changes he made. Nonetheless, he has a fine reputation in this industry, and deserves more respect than I gave him. I apologize for the comment.
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May 17th, 2017 at 8:31:32 AM permalink
Quote: Zuga

meh... suit yaself.


EDIT:

Ill ask one of the techs to track your email by your profile here.



Ok so, a lot of assumptions about my above comment. .. I dont think it was dismissive and my comment was NOT implying anything other than "meh if u want to be unreasonable then i aint gonna bother" .. obviously i did bother some more and techs did track his email .
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Boz
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May 17th, 2017 at 3:21:06 PM permalink
So there is actually someone out there who used a legitimate Email address that they check to sign up for this site, knowing Mike or not?

And then you are going to complain when 3rd world casinos send you emails?

Somewhere in Yugoslavia people are laughing, trying to send 5000 more Yugo's to America at $3995.
Zuga
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May 18th, 2017 at 4:11:08 AM permalink
Quote: Boz


Somewhere in Yugoslavia people are laughing, trying to send 5000 more Yugo's to America at $3995.



Both Yugoslavia and Yugo car are long gone. Somehow I think we are not having the last laff here....
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FleaStiff
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May 18th, 2017 at 4:30:13 AM permalink
Quote: Zuga

Both Yugoslavia and Yugo car are long gone. Somehow I think we are not having the last laff here....

I don't know what the fuss is all about. IF a newsletter was sent it perhaps should have had an Opt IN feature or a week's prior notice, sort of a BOLO.

I don't know about this 'meh'... never did figure out what it meant anyway.

Sure hope we ain't done lost Elliot, ain't he the math whiz?

NOTE: I still ain't never got no newsletter
AxelWolf
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May 18th, 2017 at 5:31:07 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff



NOTE: I still ain't never got no newsletter

Class action time.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
DJTeddyBear
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May 18th, 2017 at 6:01:38 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I still ain't never got no newsletter

Check your spam folder. That's where I found mine.
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? Note that the same could be said for Religion. I.E. Religion is nothing more than organized superstition.

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