WoV Newsletter
May 11th, 2017 at 8:32:58 AM
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Hi WoV'ers,
As announced many moons ago, we are about to start sending weekly newsletter. Before everyone starts crying foul, I have to stress out that you would be able to easily unsubscribe by clicking the unsubscribe button upon receiving the mailer ( newsletter will not contain casino links, will rather have links to related WoV articles, new forum posts etc ).
We made it prominent and at the top of the mailer, so to make things easy. Anyways hope you like it !
cheers
Zuga
As announced many moons ago, we are about to start sending weekly newsletter. Before everyone starts crying foul, I have to stress out that you would be able to easily unsubscribe by clicking the unsubscribe button upon receiving the mailer ( newsletter will not contain casino links, will rather have links to related WoV articles, new forum posts etc ).
We made it prominent and at the top of the mailer, so to make things easy. Anyways hope you like it !
cheers
Zuga
Last edited by: Zuga on May 11, 2017
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 11th, 2017 at 9:15:03 AM
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I don't understand: what is the point of a newsletter?
"What, me worry?"
May 11th, 2017 at 10:14:25 AM
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Quote: MrVI don't understand: what is the point of a newsletter?
To point to recent updates, news etc on the site, especially for those that don't frequent often. Also a lot of regulars might have missed an article or topic etc.
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 11th, 2017 at 10:34:20 AM
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Perhaps a giveaway or other enticement would encourage casual visitors to read and respond.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
May 11th, 2017 at 10:45:43 AM
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A car-a-day in May would do just fine.Quote: AyecarumbaPerhaps a giveaway or other enticement would encourage casual visitors to read and respond.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 11th, 2017 at 10:49:18 AM
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I don't know why anyone would cry foul, or otherwise object. Then again, I'm sure there would be complaints if you merely changed the logo in some manner.
That said, I look forward to it!
That said, I look forward to it!
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May 11th, 2017 at 11:01:57 AM
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I think the first Headline should be Who uses Yahoo anymore posted by RS. RS doesn't like Yahoo, come to the forum to not find out why.
I am a robot.
May 11th, 2017 at 11:47:35 AM
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Quote: AyecarumbaPerhaps a giveaway or other enticement would encourage casual visitors to read and respond.
I like the idea. We will consider incorporating one in the next week's edition.
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 11th, 2017 at 11:48:00 AM
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When can we look forward to the first newsletter?
Never used Yahoo, what did I miss?
Never used Yahoo, what did I miss?
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
May 11th, 2017 at 11:49:51 AM
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Quote: DeMangoWhen can we look forward to the first newsletter?
Most likely some time tomorrow morning. We were supposed to send it today, but our host goofed something up, so tomorrow most likely.
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 11th, 2017 at 12:05:29 PM
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Nothing, just a bitchy comment in the miscellaneous discussion thread that got under my skin.Quote: DeMangoWhen can we look forward to the first newsletter?
Never used Yahoo, what did I miss?
I am a robot.
May 11th, 2017 at 12:08:10 PM
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I know posting a link to it would kinda defeat the purpose of a newsletter, but I don't regularly check my Email, I will assume there are other people who don't regularly check their email either.Quote: ZugaMost likely some time tomorrow morning. We were supposed to send it today, but our host goofed something up, so tomorrow most likely.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 11th, 2017 at 12:09:01 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfI know posting a link to it would kinda defeat the purpose of a newsletter, but I don't regularly check my Email,
thats fine, as long as u are regular at the site ;)
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 11th, 2017 at 6:45:17 PM
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Just got mine.
I am a robot.
May 12th, 2017 at 3:08:34 AM
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Quote: onenickelmiracleJust got mine.
great :) for everyone's information, if you don't want these newsletters to end up in spam please add us to your contact list. Instructions on how to do it : https://latestcasinobonuses.com/safesenders
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 12th, 2017 at 7:29:27 AM
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I have been here since before you bought this place Z. You do not have my permission to send me your newsletter or the newsletter from bj21. I did not sign up for that when I joined this site. And now you have proven that you are willing to spam me, how many other people are you going to send my email address to? Spam is spam, there's no excuse for that. I demand that you delete my email address from all of your spam databases immediately.
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May 12th, 2017 at 8:26:09 AM
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Quote: teliotI have been here since before you bought this place Z. You do not have my permission to send me your newsletter or the newsletter from bj21. I did not sign up for that when I joined this site. And now you have proven that you are willing to spam me, how many other people are you going to send my email address to? Spam is spam, there's no excuse for that. I demand that you delete my email address from all of your spam databases immediately.
there is a visible unsubscribe button so please use that one or PM me your email. thx
For the record, We do not hold any spam databases.
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 12th, 2017 at 8:29:35 AM
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I haven't received it (don't really care), and I wonder if it is because when I set my preferences for this site, I did not click the box to allow PM or email communication?
Would that prevent it being sent?
Would that prevent it being sent?
"What, me worry?"
May 12th, 2017 at 8:32:20 AM
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Quote: MrVI haven't received it (don't really care), and I wonder if it is because when I set my preferences for this site, I did not click the box to allow PM or email communication?
Would that prevent it being sent?
um it shouldnt be related. Maybe it ended up in Spam folder?
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 12th, 2017 at 8:44:17 AM
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I don't want to unsubscribe. I never subscribed in the first place. That's nonsense. You spammed us intentionally and that I have to take any action at all is shameful.Quote: Zugathere is a visible unsubscribe button so please use that one or PM me your email. thx
For the record, We do not hold any spam databases.
You used software from a company called getresponse that says on its website it uses privacy laws from Poland and you expect me to trust them to not share my email address? Totally unethical. Those types of companies where you can do it for free make their money by harvesting email addresses for spam.
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May 12th, 2017 at 8:53:11 AM
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Quote: teliotI don't want to unsubscribe. I never subscribed in the first place. That's nonsense. You spammed us intentionally and that I have to take any action at all is shameful.
You used software from a company called getresponse that says on its website uses privacy laws from Poland and you expect me to trust them to not share my email address? Totally unethical. Those types of companies where you can do it for free make their money by harvesting email addresses for spam.
lets not construe conspiracy theory here . Fine, you dont have to unsubscribe then please PM me your email ( as already requested ) and we will do it for ya.
Quote: teliotThose types of companies where you can do it for free make their money by harvesting email addresses for spam.
GetResponse aint free. And they dont harvest nor abuse emails.
cheers!
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 12th, 2017 at 8:55:04 AM
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I'm not going to p.m. you anything, you already betrayed this entire site and every person on it by sending out this spam from this Eastern European company you claim is credible. Nonsense. Just delete everyone from your database for your spam. And let them subscribe if they wish. That's the only remedy you have that will save any dignity or respect.Quote: Zugalets not construe conspiracy theory here . Fine, you dont have to unsubscribe then please PM me your email ( as already requested ) and we will do it for ya.
cheers!
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May 12th, 2017 at 8:56:21 AM
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Quote: teliotI'm not going to p.m. you anything,
meh... suit yaself.
EDIT:
Ill ask one of the techs to track your email by your profile here.
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 12th, 2017 at 8:59:06 AM
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great response. I'm sure the people here who value their privacy are going to appreciate you being dismissive. Sure, the advantage players are happy that you sent their private information to some unknown company in some Faraway country. Great. Good move.Quote: Zugameh... suit yaself.
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May 12th, 2017 at 9:00:26 AM
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Quote: Zugameh... suit yaself.
EDIT:
Ill ask one of the techs to track your email by your profile here.
Don't help him out. He's a hypocrite when it comes to giving private information by helping casinos. What I or any other player does or have done there is none of his damn business, but he gets involved anyway.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
May 12th, 2017 at 9:04:27 AM
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Quote: teliotgreat response. I'm sure the people here who value their privacy are going to appreciate you being dismissive. Sure, the advantage players are happy that you sent their private information to some unknown company in some Faraway country. Great. Good move.
IMHO You are being unreasonable. You dont want emails, thats more than fine, power to you, u r absolutely right. Its why I started this topic in order to be transparent about the newsletters.
You dont want to unsubscribe , fine. You dont want to PM me , fine. I said will track your email via profile and do it ourselves.
You say you dont like my response, well I dont like your innuendos so there.
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 12th, 2017 at 9:19:29 AM
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@teliot we located your email, and will be removed shortly. If anyone else wants to be removed this way just post here and we will track and remove emails.
cheers!
cheers!
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 12th, 2017 at 9:24:09 AM
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From the message headers to the email you sent:
>>X-IP-SPAM: Suspect
Did you even read this?
https://www.getresponse.com/legal/antispam.html
Here is their point #3, in part --
"We recommend "confirmed opt-in" to all Users. This efficiently prevents spam complaints and makes the list much more responsive, as subscribers are receiving information they expect. The confirmation email may be customized, so that recipients can easily recognize to which list they subscribe"
And in case you don't understand what SPAM is, here is their point #2 -
"Spam, also known as junk mail, is an unsolicited commercial email messages, especially bulk email message. Unsolicited means that the recipient has not granted verifiable permission for the message to be sent. Bulk means that the message is sent as part of a larger collection of messages, all having substantively identical content. The term 'spamming' refers to transmitting, distributing or delivering any unwanted commercial e-mail correspondence, especially in mass quantities, thru the electronic means of communication."
Even if you convince me this company is legit (and I don't believe that for one instant), you didn't even follow their own recommended anti-spam policies for using their software.
Shameful on your part, just shameful spamming.
>>X-IP-SPAM: Suspect
Did you even read this?
https://www.getresponse.com/legal/antispam.html
Here is their point #3, in part --
"We recommend "confirmed opt-in" to all Users. This efficiently prevents spam complaints and makes the list much more responsive, as subscribers are receiving information they expect. The confirmation email may be customized, so that recipients can easily recognize to which list they subscribe"
And in case you don't understand what SPAM is, here is their point #2 -
"Spam, also known as junk mail, is an unsolicited commercial email messages, especially bulk email message. Unsolicited means that the recipient has not granted verifiable permission for the message to be sent. Bulk means that the message is sent as part of a larger collection of messages, all having substantively identical content. The term 'spamming' refers to transmitting, distributing or delivering any unwanted commercial e-mail correspondence, especially in mass quantities, thru the electronic means of communication."
Even if you convince me this company is legit (and I don't believe that for one instant), you didn't even follow their own recommended anti-spam policies for using their software.
Shameful on your part, just shameful spamming.
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May 12th, 2017 at 9:43:49 AM
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Just so it's clear - I don't read this site very much. I don't care - I've moved on from advantage play and consulting. I'm retired. So, no matter how "transparent" you think you are, you were not.Quote: Zugats why I started this topic in order to be transparent about the newsletters.
Just start over and do the right thing Zuga. It's easy enough. Delete the database you submitted to getresponse and open a new account at getresponse that is totally opt-in. Then post a thread here announcing the "opt-in" in the user's profile. Those who want it will opt-in. Done.
You should do the same for bj21.com -- obviously.
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May 12th, 2017 at 9:44:39 AM
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I would ask for my email to be removed, and a voluntary ban.
May 12th, 2017 at 9:49:30 AM
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Just wondering: is the primary purpose of the newsletter to allow the owners of this site to monetize their investment?
Will the owners be getting any payment or consideration from any source as a result of the newsletter?
If not: why even bother?
Will the owners be getting any payment or consideration from any source as a result of the newsletter?
If not: why even bother?
"What, me worry?"
May 12th, 2017 at 10:14:04 AM
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Wow. Somebody pissed in Eliot's Cheerios...
I think there is a certain level of expectation that when a business gets sold, the mailing list is one of the assets included in the sale. As such, it should not come as a surprise to get email from the new owner - even if that new owner is a larger conglomerate talking about some of their other business interests.
When we sign up for a casino player's card, we expect to get marketing messages from that casino, and from associated businesses within that casino. Based upon Eliot's comments here, we should expect him to freak out if a casino sends marketing about their hotel, restaurants, spa, night clubs or stage shows. Those are often separate entities renting/leasing space for their own profit motives. For some reason I wold bet that he accepts those messages without complaint.
When a casino gets sold, do we expect the new owner to receive and utilize the existing customer database? Sure.
For the record, I own several domains, with unlimited number of email forwarders. I set up a new forwarder for every purpose, just so I can see when my address gets sold. As a result, I receive email from Golden Nugget addressed to my Trump email address, and from the D addressed to my Fitzgeralds address, just to name a couple.
I would doubt that Eliot has complained about, or even noticed, those types of email list exchanges. I'm also pretty sure Eliot hasn't bothered to complain to the owners of the web server that hosts the Nigerian Princess.
Eliot is complaining here because Zuga has provided very easy access to do so.
Also, I don't think Zuga was being dismissive with his "Meh" response. I really think that was a nice way of calling Eliot a nut-job.
Bottom line, I guess Zuga should have simply sent out the newsletters without letting us know. No good deed goes unpunished...
I think there is a certain level of expectation that when a business gets sold, the mailing list is one of the assets included in the sale. As such, it should not come as a surprise to get email from the new owner - even if that new owner is a larger conglomerate talking about some of their other business interests.
When we sign up for a casino player's card, we expect to get marketing messages from that casino, and from associated businesses within that casino. Based upon Eliot's comments here, we should expect him to freak out if a casino sends marketing about their hotel, restaurants, spa, night clubs or stage shows. Those are often separate entities renting/leasing space for their own profit motives. For some reason I wold bet that he accepts those messages without complaint.
When a casino gets sold, do we expect the new owner to receive and utilize the existing customer database? Sure.
For the record, I own several domains, with unlimited number of email forwarders. I set up a new forwarder for every purpose, just so I can see when my address gets sold. As a result, I receive email from Golden Nugget addressed to my Trump email address, and from the D addressed to my Fitzgeralds address, just to name a couple.
I would doubt that Eliot has complained about, or even noticed, those types of email list exchanges. I'm also pretty sure Eliot hasn't bothered to complain to the owners of the web server that hosts the Nigerian Princess.
Eliot is complaining here because Zuga has provided very easy access to do so.
Also, I don't think Zuga was being dismissive with his "Meh" response. I really think that was a nice way of calling Eliot a nut-job.
Bottom line, I guess Zuga should have simply sent out the newsletters without letting us know. No good deed goes unpunished...
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May 12th, 2017 at 10:19:09 AM
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I did not join this website (Michael's personal invitation) back in 2009 with the expectation that 6 years later it would get sold to a spammer who doesn't care about protecting my personal information.Quote: DJTeddyBearI think there is a certain level of expectation that when a business gets sold, the mailing list is one of the assets included in the sale. As such, it should not come as a surprise to get email from the new owner - even if that new owner is a larger conglomerate talking about some of their other business interests.
As for Nigerian princes, you have no idea what I do to protect myself from spam and your fantasy world does not interest me.
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May 12th, 2017 at 11:14:01 AM
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Quote: MrVJust wondering: is the primary purpose of the newsletter to allow the owners of this site to monetize their investment?
Will the owners be getting any payment or consideration from any source as a result of the newsletter?
If not: why even bother?
Since we are not pushing any casino links then the answer is no. But we do want that return visitor back on the site. Yes we have a lot of regulars, but there is even more of those that are not. And then there are new members.
Quote: mcallister3200I would ask for my email to be removed, and a voluntary ban.
requested from the techs to locate your email. as far as the ban, ill let ya sleep on it for the weekend, and if you still feel the same on Monday please PM me and it will be done.
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 12th, 2017 at 12:00:50 PM
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Clicking on some of these links in BOTH newsletters and getting #404 error?
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
May 12th, 2017 at 1:33:08 PM
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Quote: teliotI did not join this website (Michael's personal invitation) back in 2009 with the expectation that 6 years later it would get sold to a spammer who doesn't care about protecting my personal information.
As for Nigerian princes, you have no idea what I do to protect myself from spam and your fantasy world does not interest me.
What "personal information"? Are you saying you really signed up for a forum using your own personal email address and not a throw-away email like everyone else?
As smart as you are, I'm sure you know databases frequently get hacked....if you're so vigilant about protecting yourself from spammers & Nigerian scammers, why would you sign up for a forum using your personal/private email knowing it could get hacked?
In fact, it doesn't sound like you're all that into protecting yourself from spam or scammers, by looking at your lack of effort. It also seems you're more interested in "being right" (lol), than stopping spam or scammers from sending you emails, since you wouldn't opt-out or PM Zuga. :rolls_eyes:
May 12th, 2017 at 1:47:38 PM
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Are you suggesting APs don't use email addresses that casinos can use to hunt them down? That Mrs Wolf didn't name her son Axel?
Mind bottling.
Mind bottling.
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May 12th, 2017 at 4:29:04 PM
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Sorry, Zuga, but I agree with Eliot, in that it should have been opt-in. I'm sure that seems ungrateful, since you provide the resource for free, but you also violated a long-standing agreement, perhaps only implied (but real nonetheless), that goes back well beyond my time here. There was to be no push to the emails without consent. It was discussed here and there, the year prior to your purchase. And was a deal-breaker for several regulars, as you've seen.
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May 12th, 2017 at 5:24:57 PM
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I should avoid threads like this. But, Eliot has a point, albeit perhaps ineloquently framed. I estimate that I receive 25,000 SPAMs a year. I cannot use SPAM filters as there exist all too many false positives. Which is to say, I would miss real client e-mails. I also can’t change my e-mail addresses, as I receive all e-mails directed to my many domains. Besides, I want to receive e-mails about PMs or threads to which I have subscribed, which requires that one not use a throwaway e-mail. So, I have to slog through about 65-70 SPAMs a day. And, I am notified within one minute every time I receive an e-mail -- which interrupts my train of thought while I'm working on complex problems. Sometimes I get sloppy and delete a valid question about AP. Can you imagine the overall economic cost of all the people that have to deal with this, in addition to the billions spent by ISPs and companies like MS?
I do send an e-mail to my very small list about once a year when I have some sort of announcement. But, I have never broadcasted to all the signup e-mails at the site I operate. Instead, I require people to find the signup page, and double opt-in. That is, they must request to be added to the list, I send an e-mail saying “is this really you”, and only add them to the list if there is a positive response – a double opt-in. (About 60% are rejected.) This is necessary as there exist jerks that add people to e-mail lists to piss them off. As an aside, I once asked a gay site why they were e-mailing me. They explained it was common practice for jerks to add e-mail addresses to gay sites as pranks. Unfortunate
The point is, you really should use a double opt-in process. And, nearly all respectable mass e-mail services require this in their Terms of Service. (For good reason, as they could get banned from major ISPs.) Asking people to click a button in a SPAM e-mail to opt-out is not really useful, as the general advice is to never click such links. The reason is two-fold. 1.) It verifies that it is an active e-mail address, and they might add you to more lists. 2.) The link may be to a malevolent site that will install a Trojan or virus. Do not click on such links.
Having said that, I am not ascribing any malevolence whatsoever to this site. I am merely saying that Elliot has a point that you might consider.
I do send an e-mail to my very small list about once a year when I have some sort of announcement. But, I have never broadcasted to all the signup e-mails at the site I operate. Instead, I require people to find the signup page, and double opt-in. That is, they must request to be added to the list, I send an e-mail saying “is this really you”, and only add them to the list if there is a positive response – a double opt-in. (About 60% are rejected.) This is necessary as there exist jerks that add people to e-mail lists to piss them off. As an aside, I once asked a gay site why they were e-mailing me. They explained it was common practice for jerks to add e-mail addresses to gay sites as pranks. Unfortunate
The point is, you really should use a double opt-in process. And, nearly all respectable mass e-mail services require this in their Terms of Service. (For good reason, as they could get banned from major ISPs.) Asking people to click a button in a SPAM e-mail to opt-out is not really useful, as the general advice is to never click such links. The reason is two-fold. 1.) It verifies that it is an active e-mail address, and they might add you to more lists. 2.) The link may be to a malevolent site that will install a Trojan or virus. Do not click on such links.
Having said that, I am not ascribing any malevolence whatsoever to this site. I am merely saying that Elliot has a point that you might consider.
"It is impossible to begin to learn that which one thinks one already knows." -Epictetus
May 12th, 2017 at 6:01:10 PM
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BTW: The first SPAM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ0OaiQk4AM
"It is impossible to begin to learn that which one thinks one already knows." -Epictetus
May 12th, 2017 at 6:22:31 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsSorry, Zuga, but I agree with Eliot, in that it should have been opt-in..
I know people want to bust on Zuga for this but it is exactly what our own government did to us with this
https://www.donotcall.gov/
You're opted in, UNLESS you've opted out.
edit- for those in the US anyway.
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
May 12th, 2017 at 7:58:05 PM
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When I signed up for my casino 888 account, I didn't want to hear about your site.Quote: teliotI have been here since before you bought this place Z. You do not have my permission to send me your newsletter or the newsletter from bj21. I did not sign up for that when I joined this site. And now you have proven that you are willing to spam me, how many other people are you going to send my email address to? Spam is spam, there's no excuse for that. I demand that you delete my email address from all of your spam databases immediately.
No one really one cares what you want. It's a simple email, just send it to spam or block it.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 12th, 2017 at 8:06:38 PM
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I just can't believe you are one of them guys. It seems like there is more to your request than the fact they want to send you a newsletter?Quote: mcallister3200I would ask for my email to be removed, and a voluntary ban.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 13th, 2017 at 3:06:42 AM
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Thanks everyone for the feedback.
New topic will be created shorty where you can request to opt out from the newsletter. We will collect your user names and remove you accordingly.
It will give you plenty of time to opt out before we send the next one.
Cheers!
New topic will be created shorty where you can request to opt out from the newsletter. We will collect your user names and remove you accordingly.
It will give you plenty of time to opt out before we send the next one.
Cheers!
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing "
May 13th, 2017 at 8:09:38 AM
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Newsletters.. Opt in, Opt out, Opt Right, Opt Left,,,
Enough.
Will you just post a clarification.
HAS ANY SUCH NEWSLETTER ACTUALLY BEEN SENT.
i DO NOT RECALL RECIVING IT AND IT MAY HAVE GONE INTO MY JUNK MAIL BOX WHICH MEANS IT WILL BE UNREAD UNTIL ITS AGED INTO OBLIVION.
Enough.
Will you just post a clarification.
HAS ANY SUCH NEWSLETTER ACTUALLY BEEN SENT.
i DO NOT RECALL RECIVING IT AND IT MAY HAVE GONE INTO MY JUNK MAIL BOX WHICH MEANS IT WILL BE UNREAD UNTIL ITS AGED INTO OBLIVION.
May 13th, 2017 at 10:26:48 AM
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So,mods, who is brave enough to see this for what it is and take action? Ban Zuga or DJ, your choice.Quote: DJTeddyBearAlso, I don't think Zuga was being dismissive with his "Meh" response. I really think that was a nice way of calling Eliot a nut-job.
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May 13th, 2017 at 11:06:17 AM
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Better dial it down a few notches, teliot, or else your impugning the owners' business practices will likely get you banned, just like it did LarryS.
Then again, if you're looking to become a martyr, this is your golden opportunity.
Then again, if you're looking to become a martyr, this is your golden opportunity.
"What, me worry?"
May 13th, 2017 at 11:12:58 AM
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Quote: teliotSo,mods, who is brave enough to see this for what it is and take action? Ban Zuga or DJ, your choice.
I'm tossing DJTeddyBear three days for the, "Nutjob," personal insult. I'm not sure what makes you think that Zuga should be banned for anything, I didn't see him say, "Nutjob."
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
May 13th, 2017 at 11:13:34 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBear
Also, I don't think Zuga was being dismissive with his "Meh" response. I really think that was a nice way of calling Eliot a nut-job.
Bottom line, I guess Zuga should have simply sent out the newsletters without letting us know. No good deed goes unpunished...
Three days for nutjob.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
May 13th, 2017 at 11:35:21 AM
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I haven't received my newsletter yet. If I don't receive one within 24 hours you can expect to hear from my attorneys.Quote: ZugaThanks everyone for the feedback.
New topic will be created shorty where you can request to opt out from the newsletter. We will collect your user names and remove you accordingly.
It will give you plenty of time to opt out before we send the next one.
Cheers!
In the meantime, Eliot can send me his.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
