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ncfatcat
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November 1st, 2016 at 8:26:01 AM permalink
That'll teach em to f34K with a mathematician!
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Scooter77
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November 1st, 2016 at 9:53:41 AM permalink
I think they're asking for 15K in ADDITION to the actual royalties owing (which still need to be calculated accurately).
MathExtremist
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November 1st, 2016 at 9:58:19 AM permalink
As someone else mentioned, the 15k is just to get the right jurisdiction. Anything under 15k can't be heard by NV District Court:
http://nevadainsurancelaw.com/expect-nevada-justice-court-jurisdiction-increases-10000-15000-january-2017/
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Romes
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November 1st, 2016 at 11:35:25 AM permalink
I scanned the article, so forgive me if I'm getting this wrong... but is Dan basically saying the casino isn't paying them properly for their licence on the game??
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DJTeddyBear
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November 1st, 2016 at 11:48:13 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

I scanned the article, so forgive me if I'm getting this wrong... but is Dan basically saying the casino isn't paying them properly for their licence on the game??

No.

He's saying ScientificGames (ShuffleMaster) isn't paying and/or not reporting properly.
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Romes
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November 1st, 2016 at 12:23:40 PM permalink
Eh, for the sake of pure irony I'm gonna go ahead and count that... The guy that praises the casino industry for always doing the 'right' thing, getting the shaft from a major player in the casino industry...

Dan, perhaps you didn't adhere to one of their "unwritten" but well "understood" rules?
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UCivan
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November 1st, 2016 at 2:15:05 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Eh, for the sake of pure irony I'm gonna go ahead and count that... The guy that praises the casino industry for always doing the 'right' thing, getting the shaft from a major player in the casino industry...

Dan, perhaps you didn't adhere to one of their "unwritten" but well "understood" rules?

I read Dan praised casinos, but not and never "distributors". He was let go from one distributor after having invented some of their games. That is, distributor need sales (on the payroll) not inventors (on the payroll).....
Last edited by: UCivan on Nov 1, 2016
racquet
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November 1st, 2016 at 3:10:35 PM permalink
I don't think his issue is with a casino, but rather that there are more machines or copies of his software out there, in multiple casinos, than SG is accounting for. By a significant multiple.

I don't agree with Dan's point of view on AP play, but a contract is a contract.

Just like the implied contract I have with the casino: to only use my brain to decide how to play blackjack.

Philosophical differences aside, he deserves to get paid. Hope it works out.
DJTeddyBear
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November 1st, 2016 at 3:13:19 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

... He was let go from one distributor after having invented some of their games. That is, distributor need sales not inventors.....

Distributors need sales, sure. But they also need something to sell. Toward that end, Dan was doing a fine job. There's probably more to the "let go" story than meets the eye, as there are at least two sides to every story.
Last edited by: DJTeddyBear on Nov 1, 2016
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Zcore13
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November 1st, 2016 at 5:07:53 PM permalink
Nobody likes Shuffle Master. Not Casinos, not inventors, not other distributors. Unless you work for them or with them. Then you have to.


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