Wizardofnothing
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June 21st, 2016 at 6:27:54 AM permalink
https://imgur.com/a/3yJZA

Anyone do a review of it?

Did someone on this forum invent it?
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SM777
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June 21st, 2016 at 6:57:42 AM permalink
Much better 2 Card Poker game debuts at Excalibur tomorrow morning.
TigerWu
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June 21st, 2016 at 7:28:25 AM permalink
Here's this...
Zcore13
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June 21st, 2016 at 7:56:44 AM permalink
I've got a good marketing slogan for their game...

Two Card Poker: Almost like Three Card Poker, only less fun and interesting.


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Romes
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June 21st, 2016 at 8:29:08 AM permalink
Quote:

Hand rankings are as follows:
1. Pairs (A’s – 2’s); then
2. Straight Flushes (A/K suited is high and A/2 suited is low); then
3. Flushes (A/Q suited is high and 2/4 suited is low); then
4. High card if no flush (straights have no value)

Huh? So a Pair is better than a straight flush? If you get a Qc, you have 3 other cards in the deck to make a pair, but only 2 other cards in the deck to make a straight flush. I'm not saying QQ isn't better than KcQc, but it just seems counter-intuitive to the math and awkward to say "I don't want a straight flush, I want a pair!"

I would think that pairs would be fairly common given 4 cards. Flushes should be VERY common, correct? Hell, IF your first 3 cards are different suits, then on the last card you have a 75% chance of having a flush.

Yet another game with 4 circles for bets on the layout... Trying to work in TWO sucker side bets. This shouldn't be too much harder to analyze than 3cp.
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Ayecarumba
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June 21st, 2016 at 8:38:24 AM permalink
Straightforward, and simple to play. I think the "4-card bonus" would do better using all four the the players starting cards, vs. combining the player's two selected cards with the dealer's two.

I'd be concerned with game protection, as there are big incentives for players to swap cards, especially since 1) they get to handle them and 2) there appears to be a muck in the procedure that holds the potential to hide the card swapping.

With a Jack high flush minimum to qualify, I wonder how often the dealer's hand will make the grade? Do the player's get to see any of the Dealer's four cards prior to their play/fold decision?
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Romes
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June 21st, 2016 at 8:45:27 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

With a Jack high flush minimum to qualify, I wonder how often the dealer's hand will make the grade? Do the player's get to see any of the Dealer's four cards prior to their play/fold decision?

No, there's a demo in the link.

I had trips in my hand, which is worthless in this game, so that sucks. I then had 10-10 in my hand, and the dealer had a 10 but didn't play it, so even though he flipped it up in his hand lost the 4 card bet, which sucks.
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Ayecarumba
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June 21st, 2016 at 8:56:58 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

...IF your first 3 cards are different suits, then on the last card you have a 75% chance of having a flush...



My guess... not exactly. Getting a flush as your highest hand is actually not that easy. Assuming you don't have a flush or higher on your first three cards, of the 49 cards remaining, 9 will make pairs and 5 or 6 will make straight flushes. So that leaves ~ 24 cards out of 49 to make a flush, or ~49%.
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Romes
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June 21st, 2016 at 9:09:59 AM permalink
Flush or better. If you have Spade, Club, Diamond... then any of those 3 suits will give you a minimum of a flush, with 6 of them (2 from each suit) giving you a straight flush, 9 of them giving you pairs, and the remaining 21 giving you a flush. Thus, out of the remaining 49 cards you have 36 to give you a flush or better (~74%).

One thing I definitely do not like... If you don't want to play the stupid side bets there's NO WAY to earn more than even money in the game. At least in 3cp you still get an Ante bonus for a great hand.

Edit - My instinct would be you need about a J-7 suited or better to play. No math, but just my slightly educated guess.
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June 21st, 2016 at 10:16:48 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Edit - My instinct would be you need about a J-7 suited or better to play. No math, but just my slightly educated guess.



I was gonna ask what were people's guesses on the cutoff hand. My guess was gonna be something like Q-2 flush. I was thinking it'll be similar to the dealer qualifying hand.

I played the demo and enjoyed it. I feels a bit like you are making a choice of how to play your hand similar to how you do in pai gow, even though in this game there's no actual dilemma or strategy about what two cards to pick. I'd probably play this for a bit at $5 per hand.

I like the 2 Card Bonus paytable okay because it "feels like" it shouldn't be all that hard to get 77+, even though I am sure it is. I don't like the 4 Card one for the same reasons as Ayecarumba. I feel like it'll be really maddening on the occasions when the dealer has the cards I need, but doesn't play them. I too feel like the 4 Card would be more fun and feel more natural if it were simply your own starting hand.
BTLWI
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June 21st, 2016 at 12:46:41 PM permalink
I'll go with K3+ flush. All my flush hands were getting smoked by the dealer. Did not do well at all on the 4 card bonus bet, seemed to do OK on the 2 card bonus bet. Played 30-40 hands on demo.
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June 21st, 2016 at 1:05:58 PM permalink
They should just call Casino War one card poker.
Deucekies
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June 21st, 2016 at 3:18:28 PM permalink
We have Three Card Poker, Four Card Poker, Six Card Poker, and now Two Card Poker. What's next? One Card Poker?

Quote: gamerfreak

They should just call Casino War one card poker.



And then we have Mississippi Stud and Pai Gow for the Five and Seven. Nowhere to go but up!
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June 21st, 2016 at 5:58:44 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

They should just call Casino War one card poker.


Some have used that phrase in the past....I sense a sequel to Bab's winner makes an appearance.
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June 21st, 2016 at 7:44:29 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

We have Three Card Poker, Four Card Poker, Six Card Poker, and now Two Card Poker. What's next? One Card Poker?



Wouldn't that be "Indian poker" also known as "Blind Man's Bluff"?

I could see it working at Circus Circus.
SM777
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June 22nd, 2016 at 9:23:33 PM permalink
A brand new 2 card poker game debuted at Excalibur this morning.

Play your best pair vs the dealer's best pair. No weird hand rankings with 2 card straights, flushes, etc. Pair v Pair.
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June 23rd, 2016 at 4:42:19 AM permalink
Quote: SM777

A brand new 2 card poker game debuted at Excalibur this morning.

Play your best pair vs the dealer's best pair. No weird hand rankings with 2 card straights, flushes, etc. Pair v Pair.

Could you elaborate more? How many cards do the players get.How many does the dealer get.Does the dealer need to qualify? How does the betting work. Are there bonus hands? Etc......
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June 23rd, 2016 at 6:18:59 AM permalink
fyi - It might be Two For The Show which I saw at a showcase.
Quote: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gaming-business/game-inventors/18111-ricoh-coventry-showcase/5/

Part 4
12 – Two For The Show ( https://www.shufflemaster.com/Table-Products/Table-Games/Specialty-Games/Two-for-the-Show )
This is an Ante / Raise x1 game with a side-bet on your hand.
Essentially, from a single deck, you get seven cards and the only thing that matters is your best Pair (which may be part of a Trips or Quads). Trips, straights, flushes etc only count towards the side-bet.
The dealer qualifies with any pair and, as in three-card poker, only pays the Ante if not qualifying. There is also a bonus for winning with a Pair of Aces (where Ante is paid 2/1).
It was a very simple game to play but can be quite annoying, since the odds favour getting higher pairs, and you have to play most low pairs.

SM777
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June 23rd, 2016 at 7:00:09 AM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

Could you elaborate more? How many cards do the players get.How many does the dealer get.Does the dealer need to qualify? How does the betting work. Are there bonus hands? Etc......



6 cards to make a pair for both player and dealer, same betting structure as TCP. Bonus bet covers the best 5 out of 6 card hand so you don't get hosed if you have a strong poker hand.
charliepatrick
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June 23rd, 2016 at 8:06:55 AM permalink
Can you confirm whether the dealer needs a pair to qualify as...
(i) it doesn't make sense as the dealer won't qualify more than 1/3 of the time (34.52% if you don't look) - so you're better off playing blind,
(ii) the game is very similar to the game I mentioned before (where 7-cards means the player has a valid decision whether to play) so unless it's by shuffllemaster (or pre-dates it) someone might take offence.
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June 23rd, 2016 at 8:11:57 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

Can you confirm whether the dealer needs a pair to qualify as...
(i) it doesn't make sense as the dealer won't qualify more than 1/3 of the time (34.52% if you don't look) - so you're better off playing blind,
(ii) the game is very similar to the game I mentioned before (where 7-cards means the player has a valid decision whether to play) so unless it's by shuffllemaster (or pre-dates it) someone might take offence.



Dealer needs A/K to qualify. If dealer doesn't qualify, play pushes, ante automatic win.

It is by Shufflemaster, game adjusted from 7 cards to 6 cards.
charliepatrick
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June 23rd, 2016 at 8:33:29 AM permalink
That makes sense - it's now in your interest to play all pairs and fold the rest (AK is a close decision).
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