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July 23rd, 2015 at 2:39:10 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I'm wondering if not now, maybe later, the site can give us some custom options to change background /foreground colors from the default setting. And maybe some other possibilities in fonts, or sizing we can set on our own.



thats an excellent idea. Ive added it to our "to do list" . We will look into adding some "custom options" .
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July 23rd, 2015 at 2:42:56 PM permalink
I love the new appearance. Good job, you guys.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 3:09:52 PM permalink
Now that I finally have a chance to try it on my laptop rather than my iPhone....

Looks great.

Obviously, there are differences between the laptop version and iPhone version. That's what "Mobile Friendly" is all about. But unlike so many other sites, the implementation here is damn good - save for the few bugs that need to be worked out.

Zuga, if people are asking for the same thing, it's probably because they didn't realize that it was already asked for. After all, people don't read (or don't remember) everything. It most certainly is NOT simply to bug you about it.

On a side note, I DID notice one more issue. On the formatting codes page (and presumably elsewhere), the bulleted and numbered list function doesn't work. Then again, neither does the bold, italic, strike thru OR underline! But I think some of that has already been reported...
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July 23rd, 2015 at 4:00:02 PM permalink
Test to see if I attached my picture correctly.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 4:01:17 PM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

Now it's a carved pumpkin head on a skeleton?
To each their own.
That's somewhere in the original amendments, or it should have been ;-)



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July 23rd, 2015 at 4:03:07 PM permalink
When viewing on my cell phone the spoiler tags aren't working. It shows the spoiler and I have to click the spoiler button twice to make it disapear.


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July 23rd, 2015 at 4:03:43 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Noticed nuked or suspended members now same color as regular members
The infamous Beethoven9th is shown as starting the 2016 thread.
He is now the same color as regular members.
Uh oh
B9 back? lol




I'm sure has been.

Someone is going to have a field day with that.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 4:06:35 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

Test to see if I attached my picture correctly.


I saw a black silhouette in your post,
Now I see something different when I go to , actually 'quote' this time.
Black silhouette was better I think, don't know what I'm looking at now.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 4:07:24 PM permalink
The color is the same for a nuked member but it still shows as restricted user on their profile.


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July 23rd, 2015 at 5:19:47 PM permalink
I'm interested in people's post count and other info being next to their name on each post.
I'm on my iPhone right now and I'm not seeing that information. I fear it's not there either on a regular computer?
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July 23rd, 2015 at 5:32:50 PM permalink
Re: Newest new change:

F*** this, I'd rather shoot myself


Edit: was that temporary or what? The banner had colors and the wizard hat was in the center of the banner.


Better now
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July 23rd, 2015 at 5:47:22 PM permalink
Quote: RS

I'm interested in people's post count and other info being next to their name on each post.
I'm on my iPhone right now and I'm not seeing that information. I fear it's not there either on a regular computer?



Post count, threads and member since does show on a regular computer. Not on my cell phone though.


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July 23rd, 2015 at 5:48:09 PM permalink
I tried 3 times, lost all my artwork, word work, 3 times.
It really wasn't funny enough to try a fourth time.
I surrender.
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I might buy you a drink.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 5:56:29 PM permalink
Quote: Mikey75

As much as I, and several others, wish it would the old site isn't coming back. It's like the woo site. Wizard stated after the launch that to much time and money was spent to revert it back. I don't know how traffic is there but I avoid it like a plague, unless I need something and I don't know anywhere else to get the info. I'll give it some time but I suspect my daily visits here are over.

Sorry to say this and be so blunt but they don't care if YOU revisit. Unless YOU are clicking ads and depositing money you're dead weight on the odds site.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 6:20:08 PM permalink
The OLD SITE remembered

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18FmgglfoSs&feature=youtu.be
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July 23rd, 2015 at 6:21:28 PM permalink
Instead of using html to do fonts and such I would like to see the post box have the options like word does, so if you want bold you just click bold and type. A lot of other forums have this function.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 6:23:16 PM permalink
Oops I pulled an axel
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July 23rd, 2015 at 6:34:18 PM permalink
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If you will notice, it is a combo of a Rebel Flag and a "Don't Tread on Me" flag. Consider me a sympathizer of good, hardworking southerners who are looked down upon by the elite in this nation.

We have a muslim that kills soldiers and we are told "he is not all muslims." We have a guy kills people and has a rebel flag and all of the sudden, anything with the flag or CSA must be whitewashed from history.

That is my reasoning. Further discussion from anyone welcome via PM or at DT. All I will say at WoV.



I think you may have prompted me to discuss at DT. Later, gotta sign out soon for today.

I can't really pounce on anyone who would use the rebel battle flag since I have done so in my day; but now, I couldnt fail to understand why someone might object. But more at DT soon on that.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 7:20:39 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I think you may have prompted me to discuss at DT. Later, gotta sign out soon for today.

I can't really pounce on anyone who would use the rebel battle flag since I have done so in my day; but now, I couldnt fail to understand why someone might object. But more at DT soon on that.



Join the fun, just commented on the flag over at DT :-)
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 7:31:24 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Sorry to say this and be so blunt but they don't care if YOU revisit. Unless YOU are clicking ads and depositing money you're dead weight on the odds site.



I know your right Axel. I'm sure the same thing is true here. If no ones depositing money no money is being made.

I guess I'm a stick in the mud but I really dislike change, just to be changing. If it's not broke don't fix it.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 8:19:51 PM permalink
Quote: Mikey75

I know your right Axel. I'm sure the same thing is true here. If no ones depositing money no money is being made.

I guess I'm a stick in the mud but I really dislike change, just to be changing. If it's not broke don't fix it.

As a business model it probably was broken. They obviously know what's needed to make a successful affiliate site.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 8:48:49 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

As a business model it probably was broken. They obviously know what's needed to make a successful affiliate site.


Damn it Axel, sometimes you just piss me off.
You know, being right and all...;-)
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July 23rd, 2015 at 8:49:25 PM permalink
In a week we won't even remember this discussion.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 9:01:13 PM permalink
Funny I get the feeling that this new site is not done by a Professional Webmaster.

Wizard and is it Face knows a thing or two about websites.

Old site is far superior, still always wondered why Bob with 17,000+ posting should appear at the top of the page.

New logo appears to be home made. But there are too many other things to mention.

Problem is I don't know where is the information I am looking for now.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 9:03:34 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

In a week we won't even remember this discussion.


Face said almost the same thing earlier so you are bordering on plagiarism.
I see your new Avatar, not bad. I wanted the grumpy Gibbon;-)
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July 23rd, 2015 at 10:16:47 PM permalink
Adding to the chorus: the thing about bright white on neon white accented with fluorescent white really is a problem. With light gray lettering. Mmmm. Maximum viewing pain threshold < 90 seconds.



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July 23rd, 2015 at 11:09:25 PM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

Adding to the chorus: the thing about bright white on neon white accented with fluorescent white really is a problem. With light gray lettering. Mmmm. Maximum viewing pain threshold < 90 seconds.







Even better
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July 23rd, 2015 at 11:21:41 PM permalink
Blocked member's posts no longer expand, the link is dead.

Banned members don't show up as banned.

Font is awful (and that could be told with 3 minutes of UI testing). 'We'll change it later' is a terrible answer.

Haven't tried to screw with the icons, yet... not being paid to try and actively break it so won't bother to actively go through all the options and see what else is broken or can be broken.

Oh well, your site, your expenses.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 11:44:19 PM permalink
I prefer the old site, but that's probably just because I, like most people, don't like change to something we're familiar and comfortable with. Like others have said, i'm sure i'll get used to it in a week or two.

I'll second all the comments about the text needing to be bolder or darker...

Just looked at it on my mobile too, and whilst it fits much better on the screen, one thing i cant do is 'pinch' the mobile screen to make it bigger. For example, when looking at this thread, the options were 'Pages 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9...Last Page' ... If I wanted to go to, say, page 6, i'd need really accurate fingers to do so. And i have skinny fingers.

And also, post count/threads started etc doesn't show up on mobile.
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July 23rd, 2015 at 11:49:56 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Instead of using html to do fonts and such I would like to see the post box have the options like word does, so if you want bold you just click bold and type. A lot of other forums have this function.



+1 to this.

I've also seen other forums with this, rather than having to use code to do it, surely not too hard to implement here.
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July 24th, 2015 at 12:03:20 AM permalink
I'd like to see the list of recent topics re-expanded to 10 ... that's the quickest way to see what's been updated, and a feature that I used frequently. I'm afraid I might miss out on more with that list at 5.
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July 24th, 2015 at 12:14:37 AM permalink
Quote: PlayYourCardsRight

I'd like to see the list of recent topics re-expanded to 10 ... that's the quickest way to see what's been updated, and a feature that I used frequently. I'm afraid I might miss out on more with that list at 5.



If you click on the words "Recent Threads" which is actually a link, it opens up a whole page of threads in order of 'recency'.

Least when I do it, that's what happens.
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July 24th, 2015 at 2:18:14 AM permalink
Quote: Face

Previously, going to a thread I have already read to view new posts took me to where I left off. Now it appears that clicking on a previously read thread always starts at the beginning.

Not sure if that was intentional or desired by others, but I prefer being taken to where I left off.



this is fixed now

we r cracking down on other issues

cheers
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July 24th, 2015 at 3:19:54 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

If you click on the words "Recent Threads" which is actually a link, it opens up a whole page of threads in order of 'recency'.

Least when I do it, that's what happens.


That Recent Threads link is what I bookmarked and put in my nav bar on my laptop and iPhone. IE, that's my normal entry point. Has been for years, and still works great.
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July 24th, 2015 at 3:51:07 AM permalink
Hi and good luck with the remodel.

You probably made the change because Google announced a couple of months ago that it was giving preferential ranking in search requests to site's that were "mobile friendly." And with more web users using smart phones, you wanted to show up higher in search requests. But are you really competing for retail sales? And do you really need to show up higher in Google search results?

What you might have missed is that the "mobile friendly" format only helps you in search ranking for Google's mobile results and does not help for desktop searches. Question: what percentage of your users are using smart phones and what percentage are on tablets and desktop computers? My sites are still dominated by desktop users. Younger demographic sites must cater to smart phone users -- and I doubt the young demographic is what you are looking for because they don't have the money to gamble.

The negative about the mobile friendly design others have already noticed: too much white space, shorter listings in categories and the need for more page changes. That might help your page-view count but for the rest of us especially those of us using desktops, this becomes a burden and we are spending more time scrolling and clicking pages than reading, writing -- and viewing ads.

I wonder -- can you have TWO sites? One that is for mobile users and one for desktop users? Many big companies do indeed have two versions.

Your mobile version is good for mobile purposes, but it's going to hurt the desktop audience.

Best, Alan
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July 24th, 2015 at 4:19:34 AM permalink
Don't know if this bug was reported but blocked posts still appear in full
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July 24th, 2015 at 4:34:51 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Hi and good luck with the remodel.

You probably made the change because Google announced a couple of months ago that it was giving preferential ranking in search requests to site's that were "mobile friendly." And with more web users using smart phones, you wanted to show up higher in search requests. But are you really competing for retail sales? And do you really need to show up higher in Google search results?

What you might have missed is that the "mobile friendly" format only helps you in search ranking for Google's mobile results and does not help for desktop searches. Question: what percentage of your users are using smart phones and what percentage are on tablets and desktop computers? My sites are still dominated by desktop users. Younger demographic sites must cater to smart phone users -- and I doubt the young demographic is what you are looking for because they don't have the money to gamble.

The negative about the mobile friendly design others have already noticed: too much white space, shorter listings in categories and the need for more page changes. That might help your page-view count but for the rest of us especially those of us using desktops, this becomes a burden and we are spending more time scrolling and clicking pages than reading, writing -- and viewing ads.

I wonder -- can you have TWO sites? One that is for mobile users and one for desktop users? Many big companies do indeed have two versions.

Your mobile version is good for mobile purposes, but it's going to hurt the desktop audience.

Best, Alan



I agree with Alan. I am using a desktop for the forum right now and is the first time since the change. The desktop just looks like a mobile version but larger. I do not like that all.
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July 24th, 2015 at 4:36:30 AM permalink
Quote:

What you might have missed is that the "mobile friendly" format only helps you in search ranking for Google's mobile results and does not help for desktop searches. Question: what percentage of your users are using smart phones and what percentage are on tablets and desktop computers? My sites are still dominated by desktop users. Younger demographic sites must cater to smart phone users -- and I doubt the young demographic is what you are looking for because they don't have the money to gamble.



that is why we went down the responsive design route. Almost 50% of WoVs users are on mobile devices ( 40% cells and 10% tablets )
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July 24th, 2015 at 4:38:10 AM permalink
Blog Posts on mobile - fixed
Preview Posts on mobile - fixed
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July 24th, 2015 at 5:05:22 AM permalink
I also use my smart phone to read the forum, but the old format was good enough for me on my smart phone. What the new format does is make my desktop time problematic. But... it's your business. Good luck with it.
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July 24th, 2015 at 5:20:24 AM permalink
Day 2: I still think this is pretty. White on white doesn't work, and the font has to change, but the look is good. But, and I'm sorry if this is harsh, was the site not QCed at all before it was released? Nothing works. Forget adding new functions - the old functions don't work. Blocking, formatting, previewing...It's just a terrible sign that these things were broken and then left non-functional in the live version of the new site. This was obviously not ready for release. Whoever told management that this was ahead of schedule was wrong. There were many obvious bugfixes that needed to be made before an on-time rollout...
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July 24th, 2015 at 5:26:48 AM permalink
those are all small bugs that will soon be fixed. I understand this might be annoying but why I asked for some patience.

We were testing for bugs before the launch, but it is not possible to check for every single thing. Why we asked for the feedback and you guys been great in pointing them out so far.

A lot of minor bugs were already fixed, the rest will be fixed in the next couple of days.

cheers
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July 24th, 2015 at 5:47:11 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Not sure if this was said before, but the white background is no the best. If you can, try an off-white. Just a little easier on the eyes. Your readership is older than average and will appreciate it.



+1 I can barely read this. Too bright.

But it was nice to log in today and go to the last post read in this thread! Thanks for fixing that!
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July 24th, 2015 at 5:53:42 AM permalink
Hi Zuga,

Here's a bug if you haven't already seen it... Clicking on my username at the top right of the screen, i'd expect it to take me to my profile or something of the like, instead it takes me to https://wizardofvegas.com/join/
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July 24th, 2015 at 6:00:30 AM permalink
Private Messages is a little funky.


Home | My | Inbox

I think it should be:

Home | My Inbox


Currently, the "My" is linked to /my [not a page...404 error].



Also, there's a list of pages for PM's, it SHOULD read:

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |....

However, it reads:

1
2
3
4
...




Also: https://wizardofvegas.com/member/rs/threads/


Quote:

THREADS STARTED BYRS



Should have a space between "BY" and "RS".

PS: I don't like the all-caps.


Also, at the top right of that page there's a link, "Rs". On other people's pages, too, it only capitalizes the first character of their username, but not any other capitalized letters.
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July 24th, 2015 at 6:27:28 AM permalink
Quote: ajemeister

Hi Zuga,

Here's a bug if you haven't already seen it... Clicking on my username at the top right of the screen, i'd expect it to take me to my profile or something of the like, instead it takes me to https://wizardofvegas.com/join/



fixed this
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July 24th, 2015 at 6:33:35 AM permalink
Quote: Zuga

fixed this



it now takes me to the home page, is that the intended destination?
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July 24th, 2015 at 6:37:54 AM permalink
nope.. oops :) it should not be taking to any pages. as it has drop down menu. Sent over to be fixed again :)
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July 24th, 2015 at 6:38:54 AM permalink
P.S.

we will be changing to the new forum font soon.
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July 24th, 2015 at 6:43:31 AM permalink
Quote: Zuga

A lot of minor bugs were already fixed, the rest will be fixed in the next couple of days.

Sweet. I like it.

Yeah, you can't expect it to be 100% right away. There are bugs, and lots of them, but they are all minor. Bottom line, it work well.

I applaud Zuga and his staff for the work done so far, as well as the relative speed in which the bugs are being squashed.
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