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HKrandom
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December 4th, 2010 at 9:22:42 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I have a friend who went to Macao last year. He said the people stink from bad personal hygiene, the casinos smell like smoke and bad food, and people actually hawk and spit on the carpets. Even the dealers do it. He said some Asian cutie would be dealing and she'd hawk up a wad and turn her head and spit it right on the carpet next to her. Made him physically ill.


This is exactly the reason why I only play at nice and modern Casinos with higher limits and more sophisticated customers; this type of behavior would get you kicked out of the Wynn and most of the casino is smoke free. I doubt all the restaurants there would get Michelin stars if their food was that bad.
EvenBob
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December 4th, 2010 at 9:44:47 PM permalink
>I guess your sample size of 1 family is statistically significant enough to make generalizations about a few billion people...>

Hey, you don't have to go to Asia to experience this. Go to Paris in the summer and ride a public bus in July. The overwhelming stink of garlic and bodies that shower twice a month will have you hanging your head out the window gagging. I did it, I know.
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HKrandom
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December 4th, 2010 at 10:02:19 PM permalink
I think you don't understand my comment about statistical significance. Let me give you an example: a lot of young Americans living in China used to be college slackers and now teach English, eat a lot of fast food, showers little and spend most of their free time either drinking a lot of beer or doing nothing. A lot of people mistakenly believe that most Americans behave that way because they ignore that this particular group of people come to China to make an easy living with a low budget and a relatively easy job. If you go to a Louis Vuitton or a Gucci store in China you usually have to wait in queue for over half an hour just to get in because there are a lot of very successful people with a lot of money here and I can guarantee you that almost none of them fit your description.

Also, this thread is supposed to be about gaming revenue in Macau, please stop high-jacking it.
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December 4th, 2010 at 10:07:49 PM permalink
Is it easy to do things like money laundering there? That would certainly be an attraction for all kinds of "interesting" high rollers that would find it much more attractive than Vegas.
It's so overt, it's covert.
EvenBob
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December 4th, 2010 at 10:10:17 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Is it easy to do things like money laundering there? That would certainly be an attraction for all kinds of "interesting" high rollers that would find it much more attractive than Vegas.



Its still easy to launder money in Vegas, you just have to be clever about it.
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December 4th, 2010 at 10:14:26 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Is it easy to do things like money laundering there? That would certainly be an attraction for all kinds of "interesting" high rollers that would find it much more attractive than Vegas.


I often see groups of people with no hair and many tattoos wearing nice suits and betting huge amounts, don't know if you see the same in Vegas :)
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December 4th, 2010 at 10:19:47 PM permalink
Quote: HKrandom

I often see groups of people with no hair and many tattoos wearing nice suits and betting huge amounts, don't know if you see the same in Vegas :)



People who bet huge amounts aren't laundering money, they're losing it. Money launderers buy chips with bad money and cash the chips back in for good money. They don't use the chips to bet with, unless its very small bets for very short lengths of time, just to show they were playing.
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December 4th, 2010 at 10:31:10 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

People who bet huge amounts aren't laundering money, they're losing it. Money launderers buy chips with bad money and cash the chips back in for good money. They don't use the chips to bet with, unless its very small bets for very short lengths of time, just to show they were playing.


Thanks for the definition! Macau and mainland China actually use different currencies and since it is rather difficult to take large amounts of RMB through the border without declaring it most high rollers use a middle-man in the mainland that gives them casino chips once they get into Macau. Although Vegas casinos can transfer the money to your bank account, as far as I know Macau casinos pay the winnings in cash and if they are significant they are usually transfered back in the mainland through another middleman. I somehow doubt that money is officially declared to government, rich people in China are somewhat allergic to receipts and taxes.
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December 4th, 2010 at 11:05:09 PM permalink
Quote: JerryLogan

Why would any US citizen want to go to one of those places to gamble ... ... bad food in the UK?



Question a: no idea why anyone would go to the UK to gamble over the US, when they start in the US. Unless they wanted to play seriously high limit table games.

However, UK food is not as bad as it was 30 years a go. And as you've never been, you wouldn't know. Horrible BS statement there, Jerry.
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December 5th, 2010 at 3:39:16 AM permalink
Quote: HKrandom

Most of the big players I see there wear a lot of jewelry and designer clothes, I'm pretty sure most of the money they put on the table is their's but I might be wrong.
On most hands people usually ride the player betting the most, which explains why the revenues from baccarat vary so much.



That is considered politeness - not to bet against the big bettor. It's probably OK since most Bac players keep better records than roulette players - so if you ever sit down to play just follow the leader and try not to "insult" any one.

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