you are just simply completely wrong. It's the same as saying the HE doesn't matter. Or the EV, for that matter.
It [EV and HE] doesn't. Not in the "real world."
Your idea of "smart" appears to be "maximize the player return at all costs." That's not a very smart idea of "smart." In other words, your notion of "the purely mathematical argument" is absurdly narrow.
Invoking the royal "we" and the "real world" is pretty ridiculous for someone who started with the example of a $1+100x odds table. That's like arguing about whether unicorn race jockeys should be elves or hobbits. In the "real world" there are no $1+100x odds tables.
In the same real world, someone who comes to one of the handful of 100x craps tables in the country with $10,000 and wants to play would be far better served -- and probably have a more exciting time -- by making $5 passline + 100x bets than they would $500 pass bets with no odds.
It's poor advice to increase the odds bet if that puts a player above their overall comfort level on a per-wager basis. If Jim happened to be at the $5 + 100x table at the Casino Royale, and he was betting $5 + $20 odds each roll (4x odds), it would be poor advice to suggest increasing those odds to $500 per roll if his bankroll couldn't support it. I would certainly never suggest that. But you appear to suggest that Jim should not play $5 + $20 odds and should bet $25 flat instead. That's also poor advice.
I would advise against playing odds.
They are true odds bets, meaning they have no impact on your bottom line
What they do is increase variance, which (as a general rule) does
All you odds players, have you ever stopped to wonder why the casino offers true odds bets?
Hint: It isn't because they're forced to.
Hi odiousgambitQuote: odiousgambit
you are just simply completely wrong.
great 1st post and statement
(but some posts after this one has you changing that advise. Hail Hail the Easter Bunny!!)
we all have our opinions...
even 1+1=2 is an opinion, imo
another super opinion!
that makes 2 (1+1)
i think no one cares about that, just my opinion
thank you for sharing so many of your opinions
seems you have many more coming in other posts
do you have a book(s) to sell or a video(s) to view?
(i guess you are a shill, imo)
just an opinion
"Queen of Craps"
thank you for sharing!
but what is true is what you said is just your opinion
nothing more nothing less
Why? You haven't even defined "lifespan at the table." Do that, and then look again at my example. $5 pass + $20 odds vs. $25 pass + $0 odds. Can you calculate the mean and variance for each strategy? And as a follow-on, calculate (or simulate) the same bets with the continuous come strategy rather than just pass bets and recalculate the mean and variance. From what you've written so far, I think the answers will surprise you.Quote: Eric721
I feel like a broken record, but adding odds behind your line bet will inevitably shorten your lifespan at the table.
As odiousgambit pointed out, you are incorrect that the chances of winning and losing with both systems are equal. Run the numbers to see.Quote:
There is no functional difference between the two proposed systems ($55 pass vs $5 pass with $50 odds every point with no other bets) in any given session. You are just as likely to win or lose with both systems
If you don't like it, you don't have to play that way. But your psychological arguments are not mathematics, they are personal opinion. I'm not going to debate personal wagering preferences with you or anyone else. What feels "trivial and incidental" to you may be felt by another to be the price of admission for the opportunity to win on a point of 4 with full odds. What do you personally find more exciting:Quote:
Here are the downsides to playing Pass Line with Odds and nothing else:
tend to be looked upon very unfavorably by the moderators.Quote: Eric721, to mustangsally
Either you're extremely vapid, or you're extremely devious