FleaStiff
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March 15th, 2013 at 3:27:03 AM permalink
A somewhat troubled Denver Broncos player appears to have been charged with capping three separate bets at the craps table at Texas Station.

Normally I would think this has motivation to it since usually such behavior gets warnings and restitution rather than handcuffs and publicity. Considering that Quinton Carter's knee injury and status on Injured-reserve list effectively means his career in the NFL is over at just shy of three years, I would think any prosecution is personally motivated and perhaps related to his high school days in that part of town. Does such an arrest activate the morals clause in his contract and let the NFL or the Denver Broncos escape paying that pitiful pension or something?

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March 15th, 2013 at 4:18:18 AM permalink
$5??? Must be anger at all the money Denver continues to throw at Free Agents.
FleaStiff
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March 15th, 2013 at 5:21:01 AM permalink
Why throw money at something that is free?

Five dollars three times?
Heck, my companion did that her first time playing craps! Crew didn't say anything much less jug her.
FinsRule
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March 15th, 2013 at 5:54:52 AM permalink
Just a guess - There is more to this story.
Gabes22
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March 15th, 2013 at 6:04:15 AM permalink
Why would somebody even try that with all the cameras around a craps table? You can't fix stupid
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FleaStiff
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March 15th, 2013 at 6:34:48 AM permalink
Its not as if he can blend into the crowd or something... not only is he noticeable but he went to school in North Las Vegas.
AcesAndEights
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March 15th, 2013 at 10:41:38 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Considering that Quinton Carter's knee injury and status on Injured-reserve list effectively means his career in the NFL is over at just shy of three years...


I don't think this is true - he spent last season on injured reserve but spent all last season rehabbing, and has this entire off season to rehab as well. Given that he showed promise as a rookie, he definitely would have been in the mix for playing time this coming season. I doubt this incident will get him kicked off the team, but he may get a minor suspension (1-4 games or something) if he is proved to be at fault.

As to the cheating itself, if it were NOT someone who grew up in Las Vegas, I would say it's ignorance about the game of craps. But given the context, hard to think he didn't know what he was doing...I agree, there must be more to this story.
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March 15th, 2013 at 2:15:18 PM permalink
Some athletes and gamblers share my philosophy when I was younger.

Win if you can, lose if you must, but ALWAYS CHEAT. . . . . . . . . . . .
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March 15th, 2013 at 2:49:47 PM permalink
Some people think they are smarter than everyone. In the last few years we've had people at my Casino caught:

1. Playing poker and as the poker dealer's attention was at one side of the table, the player next to him took $1 chips out of the dealer's tray. Net gain $4. Net loss, arrested.

2. A dealer from another casino who thought he knew all the tricks capped his bet after hiting to a 20 and the dealer played his hand and ended with 18. Net gain $25. Net loss, arrested, lost his gaming license, can no longer work in a casino.

3, Player playing Lucky Ladies got a 20 on his first two cards. As the dealer continues to deal the rest of the table, the player "flicks" a $5 chip sliding it from in front of him, landing right in the lucky ladies circle. An amazing bit of skill or luck. Done well enough that the dealer had not idea it was done. Surveillence did. Net gain $20 (4-1 on the $5). Net loss, arrested.

You just can't fix stupid is the exact term that applies.

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March 15th, 2013 at 3:31:27 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

As to the cheating itself, if it were NOT someone who grew up in Las Vegas, I would say it's ignorance about the game of craps. But given the context, hard to think he didn't know what he was doing...I agree, there must be more to this story.

You would think so.

He was probably just dropping an extra $5 (red chip) so he could get paid with green ($25)
and the dealer(s) just did not understand what he was doing.
So they paid the bet and he probably just picked it up, not understanding why the dealers just did not take it.

Maybe they spoke different languages with different colors.
a color thing
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FleaStiff
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April 21st, 2013 at 9:50:23 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

A somewhat troubled Denver Broncos player appears to have been charged with capping three separate bets at the craps table at Texas Station.

Normally I would think this has motivation to it since usually such behavior gets warnings and restitution rather than handcuffs and publicity. Considering that Quinton Carter's knee injury and status on Injured-reserve list effectively means his career in the NFL is over at just shy of three years, I would think any prosecution is personally motivated and perhaps related to his high school days in that part of town.



Updated information:
The defendant appeared via an appearance by counsel who conveyed a player's apology for bringing negative attention and sought a brief extension of the trial date so that negotiations could continue for resolving the case out of court.
AcesAndEights
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April 22nd, 2013 at 2:01:48 PM permalink
Criminal charges dismissed.

I find the whole situation odd. He grew up in Vegas and didn't know how to play craps?

But, I find the conclusion that he wasn't actually trying to cheat fairly reasonable. When you're making millions of dollars playing football, why would you try to cheat to win an extra $15?
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FleaStiff
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April 22nd, 2013 at 2:56:34 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

I find the whole situation odd. He grew up in Vegas and didn't know how to play craps?

Its all very odd. Usually no one gets busted for a first time bet capping incident.
Its a compromise all around.
Its officially over.
His lawyer did a good job.
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