Another step for COU. A big one too!

Merry Christmas!!

In my downtime between family parties I figured I'd give a quick update since new progress has been made. For those that do not know my game is Casino Over Under. The game was initially placed for its field trial at Magnolia Bluffs in Natchez, Ms. The game is still there but now we are officially licensed as of December 14.

I traveled up to Pa my home state for the holidays and while up here I was able to meet with a few gaming executives from Mount Airy Casino in the Poconos. That Casino is unbelievable! The scenic beauty is second to none and it just has a unique feel to the atmosphere that really has to be experienced to appreciate. I dealt a few hands and discussed the results at Magnolia. We covered the AP heat articles and agreed a CSM makes it a non-issue. Fortunately, they see the same potential I do in the game and they filed their letter of intent with the state of Pa.

We started the application process and will be seeking placements at additional casinos in Pa as we were told by a rep w the state that additional letters of intent helps speed up the process. Words can not explain how pumped I am to be seeking a license in my home state of Pa and placed in a top tier casino minutes from where I grew up!

Lastly, of course now that we are licensed in Ms we are seeking additional placements there as well. It's set to be a busy year in 2017! However, there's still a long way to go yet to get where we intend on going. Happy with the progress but plenty of hard work that needs to be done.

I forgot one more thing. We are also going to get additional pay tables approved. We have a few in mind but the way the bonus is set up we have a ton of freedom to where you can make the odds and corresponding HA whatever you want. For example, on the current one the total of 6 or 33 pays 50 to 1. We are looking at submitting one where it pays 300 to 1. Of course to do that you have to modify the rest of the table accordingly but I wish I knew the exact optimal pay table. Any thoughts from you guys on what the best way to do it is? I would truly appreciate and be grateful to listen to any and all of your opinions on that. I guess the geographic location is a factor. The current one we are using is the one I thought up when I first had the idea for the game back in the mid 90's. Back then a payout of 50 to 1 on a table game raised eye brows. Nowadays the bar is much higher.

What are the results from MS? You spoke about hold, which was where you wanted it to be... How did it drop compared to the other games?

PA is a big placement for you guys, good jurisdiction.

I definitely don't want to divulge any info that may upset my friends at Magnolia Bluffs whom I hold near and dear to my heart. However, I feel I can say enough to answer your question.

The hold was higher than I ever expected over 30%. I always thought that with optimal play being as obvious as it is I was worried it would end up holding too low. It still is probably way too early to tell. However my expectations for that type of issue mean very little given I have no experience working for a casino. But I have plenty of experience as a player and from that standpoint the game has performed as I had hoped and attracted the type of players I created it to attract. I'm very happy about that. Seeing that materialize this far gives us a lot of confidence moving forward. The drops seemed good to me and haven't been an issue for those that have reviewed them so that works for me.

Thanks for the compliment on Mount Airy as there is no question a placement at that casino is a tremendous honor for any game fortunate enough to do so.

Get ready for three or possibly even four more placement announcements in the next few weeks. The Over Under is coming to a casino near everyone sooner or later! Stay tuned...

Mazel tov!

Congrat!

congrats. how much is it to get game approval and licensed in Mississippi?

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I definitely don't want to divulge any info that may upset my friends at Magnolia Bluffs whom I hold near and dear to my heart. However, I feel I can say enough to answer your question.

The hold was higher than I ever expected over 30%. I always thought that with optimal play being as obvious as it is I was worried it would end up holding too low. It still is probably way too early to tell. However my expectations for that type of issue mean very little given I have no experience working for a casino. But I have plenty of experience as a player and from that standpoint the game has performed as I had hoped and attracted the type of players I created it to attract. I'm very happy about that. Seeing that materialize this far gives us a lot of confidence moving forward. The drops seemed good to me and haven't been an issue for those that have reviewed them so that works for me.

Thanks for the compliment on Mount Airy as there is no question a placement at that casino is a tremendous honor for any game fortunate enough to do so.

Get ready for three or possibly even four more placement announcements in the next few weeks. The Over Under is coming to a casino near everyone sooner or later! Stay tuned...

Congrats on you new game! It is quite an accomplishment. I was reading up on it but havent been able to find out what happens if the total is between 18-23? Do you lose your bets?

This sounds like a cool game.... but do you lose all your bets if the total is 18-23?

Totals of 18 through 23 don't meet the win requirements for either the over or under bet, so yeah, all bets lose on these player totals.

A better question is how often does a player's three card total 18 to 23?

Thx for the clarification. I like the concept of the game, but I dont like the 'black hole' area of 18-23 , which is roughly 21% of the possibilities (6 (18-23) out of 28 (6-33) possible outcomes. If the over under were a set number, say 19.5, then I would play. Obviously the house edge would change but I think more players would be inclined to take their chances with better odds.

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Totals of 18 through 23 don't meet the win requirements for either the over or under bet, so yeah, all bets lose on these player totals.

A better question is how often does a player's three card total 18 to 23?

The answer is in the index (last page) of the Catlin Report posted in This Thread, on page two...

For six decks, 40.5% of the time you fall into that guaranteed loss window. Please check my math but I added a total for 18-23 of 2,030,704 out of 5,013,320 total combinations.