Hullabaloo
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March 13th, 2017 at 10:31:00 AM permalink
Just thought some people might be interested in checking this one out since it is the weekly game at Videopoker.com



(edited to put in a prettier picture)
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prozema
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July 11th, 2017 at 7:34:40 PM permalink
I found this in a local casino this week. a 5 coin bet will not move the next hand multipliers into action.... Similar to bonus streak.
mamat
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July 20th, 2017 at 2:10:13 AM permalink
I played this Tue 7/18 in a live casino (.05, .10). It was a lot of fun!
AP'ed some games, then played heads-up. Lost -$9.
100xOdds
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September 9th, 2017 at 12:17:40 PM permalink
Quote: mamat

I played this Tue 7/18 in a live casino (.05, .10). It was a lot of fun!
AP'ed some games, then played heads-up. Lost -$9.


how many combined multipliers make this +ev?

anyway, saw one at .05 denom with a combined 8x, popped in a $20 (smallest bill I had a the time) to play it off.
got a dealt 3oak but didn't improve.
since it's only .05 denom, I decided to keep playing it till I get no multipliers.
well, I never got less than 6x combined for any spin but lost the $20 in less than 5 min :(
Last edited by: 100xOdds on Sep 9, 2017
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
TomG
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September 10th, 2017 at 2:49:22 PM permalink
Been playing it every week at a couple casinos. One place is giving me $20 per week, 90 quarters is $22.50, so I play whatever game has enough multipliers to make it worth while, then usually get more multipliers, so can keep playing enough for them to keep giving me more free play every week, That's the real value with these games. Finding multipliers on regular Ultimate X gives you a huge edge, but very little action. Multipliers on UX Spin and Bonus Streak usually have no edge, and when they do it's very small. But you can get a lot of action from them.
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September 10th, 2017 at 4:28:38 PM permalink
I'm probably wrong, but on this game, if the sum of the multipliers is 19x or higher, I'd think it would be a play. 18x or less, pass.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
100xOdds
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September 10th, 2017 at 4:34:36 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

Been playing it every week at a couple casinos. One place is giving me $20 per week, 90 quarters is $22.50, so I play whatever game has enough multipliers to make it worth while, then usually get more multipliers, so can keep playing enough for them to keep giving me more free play every week, That's the real value with these games. Finding multipliers on regular Ultimate X gives you a huge edge, but very little action. Multipliers on UX Spin and Bonus Streak usually have no edge, and when they do it's very small. But you can get a lot of action from them.


so I guess I must have been really unlucky when it ate $20 at .05 denom in 5 min?
(and that includes getting dealt 3oak with multipliers on my 1st spin)
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
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September 11th, 2017 at 6:16:25 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I'm probably wrong, but on this game, if the sum of the multipliers is 19x or higher, I'd think it would be a play. 18x or less, pass.



Right, but 19X is pretty marginal on a crappy paytable. A few percent at best.
100xOdds
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February 2nd, 2018 at 8:42:06 AM permalink
There's no Wiz page on this game?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
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June 6th, 2019 at 11:06:54 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

There's no Wiz page on this game?


Still no wiz page for this game :(
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
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June 6th, 2019 at 1:26:10 PM permalink
I haven't given this much thought, but it seems to me that this would have the same expected value as the single-line UX game with the same payouts and multipliers, like Spin Poker does with its underlying game. The variance would be different as in regular Spin Poker.

Anyone else have a related thought?
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June 6th, 2019 at 2:33:31 PM permalink
Quote: GaryJKoehler

I haven't given this much thought, but it seems to me that this would have the same expected value as the single-line UX game with the same payouts and multipliers, like Spin Poker does with its underlying game. The variance would be different as in regular Spin Poker.

Anyone else have a related thought?

single line ult x?
I thought play would be more comparable to 10 line ult x?

And I was more looking for the returns of the various games.
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June 6th, 2019 at 5:00:06 PM permalink
Quote: GaryJKoehler

I haven't given this much thought, but it seems to me that this would have the same expected value as the single-line UX game with the same payouts and multipliers, like Spin Poker does with its underlying game. The variance would be different as in regular Spin Poker.

Anyone else have a related thought?



I assumed it would be like a 9 line UX game with the multipliers in terms of return, you have to make the play based the avg multiplier for the 9 lines, no?
GaryJKoehler
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June 7th, 2019 at 4:35:22 AM permalink
In a 9-line game, all hands have the same dealt cards but the draws are from 9 different decks with the dealt cards removed. In Spin Poker, the empty squares on the draw are filled in from the remaining 47 cards in the deck. No card will appear more than once in the draw.

I’m pretty sure both would have the same expected value (9 times the single-line version).

Whether one “make(s) the play based the avg multiplier for the 9 lines” seems reasonable but I’d have to think more on this.
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