charliepatrick
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March 2nd, 2017 at 8:43:07 AM permalink
I've seen three magics and a few other nice little earners.
LostWages
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March 2nd, 2017 at 9:03:00 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

I've seen three magics and a few other nice little earners.

We're envious! Hope I get the same fortune when I play Ultimate X, or if they have it, Magic Deal in downtown Las Vegas.

Has anyone heard/seen Magic Deal in downtown Las Vegas?
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beachbumbabs
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March 2nd, 2017 at 9:03:06 AM permalink
This hand was fun. I've played a couple hundred hands, have not seen 3 Magics, but have had 2 in more.hands than I expected. I would definitely have some fun with this, though the 2x base bet seems high.

"If the house lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game."
LostWages
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March 2nd, 2017 at 9:04:39 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

This hand was fun. I've played a couple hundred hands, have not seen 3 Magics, but have had 2 in more.hands than I expected. I would definitely have some fun with this, though the 2x base bet seems high.

Hooray for Babs!
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GaryJKoehler
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March 2nd, 2017 at 9:09:01 AM permalink
Quote: GaryJKoehler

OK, you got me. I'm just thinking the events are independent, but that is purely speculation. :-)

If a binomial distribution applies (i.e., getting 1 out of 3, 2 out of 3, and 3 out of 3), then p=0.047743 with 0.129879 prob for 1 MC, 0.006512 for 2 and 0.000109 for 3.
Hullabaloo
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March 2nd, 2017 at 9:27:19 AM permalink
Quote: LostWages

The other game I plan to play is Ultimate X, but I'm going to look for Magic Card in Apr in downtown Las Vegas.

The only place that seems to get the new games downtown is the Golden Nugget. They have, (or had), Triple Wheel Poker, Barnyard Poker, and Hot Roll poker and I don't recall seeing any of those anywhere else downtown.

I've never been able to play the game at the IGT sight, which is why I mentioned videopoker.com.
LostWages
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March 2nd, 2017 at 10:04:58 AM permalink
Quote: Hullabaloo

I've never been able to play the game at the IGT sight, which is why I mentioned videopoker.com.

Oi! Thanks for the feedback on whether or not Magic Deal is available - I'll check it out again and post my findings when I go to Las Vegas this April. I'll be at MSS, which is walking distance from the GN.

WRT using the IGT site - if you read the OP, you'll see I posted that the IGT site link is ornery - sometimes I had to click like 3 X on the OP link to get Magic Deal to show.

Yes, Videopoker.com has MagicDeal, and some posters commented on their results -- but you need a \$ subscription "Gold" to play this game (and I guess some others).

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Hullabaloo
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March 2nd, 2017 at 2:03:34 PM permalink
Quote: LostWages

Yes, Videopoker.com has MagicDeal, and some posters commented on their results -- but you need a \$ subscription "Gold" to play this game (and I guess some others).

Yes, but they do use games that are "gold only" as contest games as well and then everyone who has an account can play them. Powerhouse Poker is, (or was. I don't keep track), gold, but it's been the daily game a couple of times in the past few months. You just need to check in and see what the game of the day is. I think they already used it for the weekly contest in which case it probably won't be again. If anyone see's it as a contest you might want to revive this thread and mention it.

I don't know what's in MSS or the Cal any more but Fremont does have 2 places where their are some newer games but I doubt you'd find Magic Poker in these; I'm just including it for anyone reading who is looking for newer VP games in downtown LV.

Just to the west of the center bar, near the table games, there are some "All Star" games that have a variety of things, including Double STP, (That's all I remember, but there are others ;)).

On the east side of the property they've put in a new bar with new games. There are a lot of varieties, but 1) I thought the pay tables kind of sucked and 2) when you switch games you often had to wait for the game to be downloaded, and that could take a while.
LostWages
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March 2nd, 2017 at 3:05:42 PM permalink
Quote: Hullabaloo

Yes, but they do use games that are "gold only" as contest games as well and then everyone who has an account can play them.

Hey! Thanks for the extra info!

The games I am primarily interested in are Ultimate X and Magic Deal; I use VPFree2 to search for best available paying machines, ideally Deuces Are Wild (any flavor), and now DDB. DDB is in order to practice at least a little bit for my upcoming VP Tournament. I'd at least like to get a \$5 "feel" of the machine I'll be using (2nd floor, the Cal, already roped off).

Back to Videopoker.com - I learn something everyday. I guess I didn't like staying/reading a website if you have to pay to use some of its features. So my new questions are:

1. Has it been worth it to you? Example, on a monthly basis you've won back enough to at least pay for your \$3.99 subscription (or is Gold more?).

2. How often are the contests?

3. What is the prize bucket?

4. How is the prize distributed? (1st place, 2nd place, etc.)

If you have the info, great. If not, thanks for your post anyway!
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tringlomane
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March 2nd, 2017 at 3:08:53 PM permalink
Quote: LostWages

Has anyone heard/seen Magic Deal in downtown Las Vegas?

I have yet to see it in a casino nationwide yet. videopoker.com releases games on the site a few months before the casinos do.

Quote: GaryJKoehler

I think the probability of one Magic card is p, of 2 is p^2 and 3, p^3. Solving p+p^2+p^3 = 0.1365 gives p = 0.120289435 which is pretty consistent with what my empirical observations found. Thoughts?

I would think IGT would just assign the probabilities for the number of magic cards given. But this formula may be close to the actual distribution. Also the frequency of receiving a magic card also varies by game variant. It comes less frequently in games like DDB where getting 3 magic cards guarantees a 250 credit win on each line.

I played this during one of the videopoker.com weekly contests. Pretty fun...but really, really swingy. Even 3 line nickels will require a sizable bankroll.

Quote: Romes

So I just ran "that bad" and found myself in a 1 in 1.5 billion situation?? Still haven't seen anyone post they've gotten 3 magic cards. If it's truly "random" between 1 and 3 then someone HAD to of been dealt 3, just with the testers in this thread alone.

Random doesn't necessary mean "equally weighted". 3 magic cards comes in roughly ~1% of all the magic deals you experience. Have you played over 1000 rounds yet? I got it only once playing for several hours in January. If you were supposed to get 1, 2, or 3 magic deal cards with equal likelihood then the game would be heavily in the player's favor because of what I described above. 3 magic cards guarantee at least quad, and is worth at least 250 credits a line in America's favorite VP variant.

Here was that 3 magic card deal. Would be awesome I could get this for real money. ;)