South Point VP Promotion

I was driving by the South Point todayand on their video board was an interesting promo. It appears that you can earn free slot play for hitting a royal. I dont remember all the values but went fron $5 to $1000 depending on the demonination of the machine. Also, the values double if the royal is natural (dealt). How much does this help the EV?

Quote: avargov

I was driving by the South Point todayand on their video board was an interesting promo. It appears that you can earn free slot play for hitting a royal. I dont remember all the values but went fron $5 to $1000 depending on the demonination of the machine. Also, the values double if the royal is natural (dealt). How much does this help the EV?

The two combined bonuses add about 0.3% to the EV.

Then would.I be wrong in thinking that I should take my VP bankroll there, at least while the promo is going on? Seem like EV would be over 100% with players card.

Quote: avargov

Then would.I be wrong in thinking that I should take my VP bankroll there, at least while the promo is going on? Seem like EV would be over 100% with players card.

That depends. First of all, the best game you can find there is 99.73% NSUD. The slot club pays 0.3%. The bonus is worth another 0.3%. So you're chugging along at just over 100.3%; on the rare double point days (like today), the points arw worth 0.6%, so now you're at 100.6% (but you'll be fighting the crowds).

The thing is, there are better plays in Vegas just as they stand. You can play FPDW at most Station casinos, and while you earn virtually no points or other benefits, the game itself is 100.7%. The Palms has progressive .25 FPDW AND a .25% slot club--nudging you over 101% (and there are people who LIVE there on those machines as a result, though you can usually find an open seat). There are other FPDW machines in town (check VpFree2). Also, promotions with more value than the South Point one can boost you well into positive territory.

Another consideration, particularly if you are a local, is "bounceback", or mailers. Some casinos offer quite a bit; others, next to nothing. Another BIG "catch" is if a casino sees that you ONLY play on multiple point/peromotion days, they may cut you off from mailers, and in many cases, will bar you from playing altogether.

So in terms of the South Point play: good; on double points days: better; mailers: good, but paranoia: bad; promos: decent. It's not that bad of a play overall, though, especially since Vegas video poker has pretty much gone down the drain in recent years. Oh, and if you do go to the South Point, be sure to eat at the prime rib restaurant. The prices on the menu will make you think the food must be mediocre--but it's terrific.

Thanks for all of the.advice. I .am not really a local, although I do spend 3 nights a week or so in Vegas. My biggest concern is truck parking....perhaps I should start a thread about that.

Not a bad place to take your bankroll on double point days or even on regular days. Try a hot dog if you're not up for the prime rib. They have 50 & 100-play NSUD in nickels, which is a fun game and can smooth out the variance for you. Tough to find a seat on holidays, though. The royal promo is just a nice little extra, but probably won't affect you. I think the South Point has good truck parking, too. Do you drive a semi? Have you tried the Silverton?

mkl654321 -- Did you play the Jerry's Nugget promo/fiasco of a couple of months ago?

I don't enter Jerry's Nugget unless I'm wearing a floor-length condom, and it was too hot for that.

They've actually cleaned it up a bit, not sure when the last time you were there was. You might just need a waist-length condom now.

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They've actually cleaned it up a bit, not sure when the last time you were there was. You might just need a waist-length condom now.

It was a couple of years ago. The carpet, the walls, and the dealers were peeling. If it's been cleaned up a bit, that would be welcome. Heck, if it was merely disinfected and deloused, that would be an improvement. Did they finally remove all the corpses of the dead penny slot players?

teddys, thanks for the tips. Yes, I. do drive a semi, from socal to slc and back. Yes, I have tried the Silverton, wasn't impressed. Generally I park at the wonderful Wild Wild West and either take a cab or hoof it. I am always looking for other parking places (perhaps the Wiz would let me use his driveway). Btw, my VP budget is around $1100 right now, so I try to find $0.25 FPJB or FPDW. Should I be looking at a different denomination for my bankroll? thanks for all of your help guys....alan

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It was a couple of years ago. The carpet, the walls, and the dealers were peeling. If it's been cleaned up a bit, that would be welcome. Heck, if it was merely disinfected and deloused, that would be an improvement. Did they finally remove all the corpses of the dead penny slot players?

It's pretty nice. I would the El Cortez is a good quality comparable. They have $2 Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em and $3 craps with 3x4x5x. The video poker is very decent, too, although they've downgraded recently.

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teddys, thanks for the tips. Yes, I. do drive a semi, from socal to slc and back. Yes, I have tried the Silverton, wasn't impressed. Generally I park at the wonderful Wild Wild West and either take a cab or hoof it. I am always looking for other parking places (perhaps the Wiz would let me use his driveway). Btw, my VP budget is around $1100 right now, so I try to find $0.25 FPJB or FPDW. Should I be looking at a different denomination for my bankroll? thanks for all of your help guys....alan

The Wild West is the only casino that caters to truck drivers that I know of. Plus it has easy freeway on/off access. The closest casino with full pay jacks at $0.25 to there is I believe the Orleans about a mile west down Trop. Fun place to play. You could also try hoofing or cabbing up to the Palms, which has FPDW. I'm trying to remember if the Gold Coast has truck parking in the back off Valley View, but I don't think so. They always seem to have a lot of space back there, though. Maybe Palace Station, too.

There's also always Mesquite -- the Casablanca has surprisingly good VP, and the Eureka has $0.25 FPDW, if you don't mind the ambiance.

$1100 is right on the cusp for the kind of bankroll you need for FPDW. You are still gambling -- maybe a 30% risk of ruin. I would want at least twice that. For Jacks, you should have 5K.

Edit: I've been informed that the Orleans has truck parking. You could also try the $.05 FPDW at Boulder Station, Sams Town, and I believe Fiesta Henderson has that as well.

Quote: teddys

The Wild West is the only casino that caters to truck drivers that I know of. Plus it has easy freeway on/off access. The closest casino with full pay jacks at $0.25 to there is I believe the Orleans about a mile west down Trop. Fun place to play. You could also try hoofing or cabbing up to the Palms, which has FPDW. I'm trying to remember if the Gold Coast has truck parking in the back off Valley View, but I don't think so. They always seem to have a lot of space back there, though. Maybe Palace Station, too.

There's also always Mesquite -- the Casablanca has surprisingly good VP, and the Eureka has $0.25 FPDW, if you don't mind the ambiance.

$1100 is right on the cusp for the kind of bankroll you need for FPDW. You are still gambling -- maybe a 30% risk of ruin. I would want at least twice that. For Jacks, you should have 5K.

The Fiesta Henderson has truck parking, I believe, along with .25 FPDW.

Your bankroll is too small for sustainability, but you're correct to choose .25 FPDW or FPJW, because any lower-denom game is going to have awful paytables.

You are correct about the Orleans having truck parking, however, they only allow you to park there if you are actually in the casino. When we stop fo our Dot mandated break, it has to be for 10.hours, so they have been removed from my list. The Cannery also has truck parking. Was at the Eureka last night shooting craps, not too bad of a place really. A little disclosure, I took $1000. out of my college football bankroll to fund my VP bankroll a couple of months ago. Perhaps I should move another $1500 of so to be fully funded and lower my ROR? My cfb roll is around $7200 right now pending the BSU-VT outcome (BSU -1). Do you feel moving that money over to VP would be wise? (I flat bet CFB at 300 a game and dont want to be underfunded there either, of course I may be already) as always...thanks....alan

Yeah. But you don't need to move it over right away. It's all one big bankroll, psychologically. So you can keep the VP at what it is and move over $$ from CFB as you get low. Hopefully you'll run good in CFB. It's certainly a lot less variance.

Edit: I'm also rooting for the boys in blue.

Wow....right when I read your post...Boise fumbled at their own 31. what might have been a positive opening weekend could take a bad turn soon. 5-4 coming in to this game....

only one thing to say.....HOORAH!