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May 28th, 2016 at 5:44:00 PM permalink
Joker poker 'kings or better' strategy (choose the one highest on the list):

1 Pair W7; WT
4 to a Straight W345
1 Pair W8
1 Pair W6
1 Pair W9
1 Pair W5
Wild Only

W= Wild (aka Joker)

and if your hand has both a 7 and T (unsuited), then which to hold?
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May 28th, 2016 at 6:18:36 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

Joker poker 'kings or better' strategy (choose the one highest on the list):

1 Pair W7; WT
4 to a Straight W345
1 Pair W8
1 Pair W6
1 Pair W9
1 Pair W5
Wild Only

W= Wild (aka Joker)

and if your hand has both a 7 and T (unsuited), then which to hold?



It's been over two years since I regularly played a JW game. It's so different from other games, I remember it being difficult to figure out the correct play and I had to really be fine-tuned to work on practice software without the error messages popping up frequently. However, one thing I remember that may help you is to try to judge which card, the 7 or T, has more "elbow room" in relation to the penalty cards. If I remember, JW-2 Pair was even more difficult.
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May 28th, 2016 at 6:36:20 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

Joker poker 'kings or better' strategy (choose the one highest on the list):

1 Pair W7; WT
4 to a Straight W345
1 Pair W8
1 Pair W6
1 Pair W9
1 Pair W5
Wild Only

W= Wild (aka Joker)

and if your hand has both a 7 and T (unsuited), then which to hold?



https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/hand-analyzer/ says the T. Makes sense because the T has all the same opportunities as the 7 plus it sets up for a wild royal flush.
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May 28th, 2016 at 6:45:33 PM permalink
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https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/hand-analyzer/ says the T. Makes sense because the T has all the same opportunities as the 7 plus it sets up for a wild royal flush.


thx. that makes sense.

I wonder why the strat maker put both w7 and wT on the same line?
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May 28th, 2016 at 6:47:08 PM permalink
Quote: DiscreteMaths2

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/hand-analyzer/ says the T. Makes sense because the T has all the same opportunities as the 7 plus it sets up for a wild royal flush.




The W7 is better than WT in a hand like WTs7cQh3d, because the 7 has more "elbow room".

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May 28th, 2016 at 7:20:13 PM permalink
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thx. that makes sense.

I wonder why the strat maker put both w7 and wT on the same line?



If you are using the Wizard's strat maker it uses a general algorithm which will end up ordering and grouping non conflicting plays, which might look weird but are none the less valid.

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The W7 is better than WT in a hand like WTs7cQh3d, because the 7 has more "elbow room".

The fine points of the game can be a real bitch.



yes that is correct. i didn't mean to generalize. I just put in 2 filler cards to answer the question, which in hindsight is a bad idea considering how many exceptions there are for pairs made with a Wild against the general strategy.
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May 28th, 2016 at 8:02:21 PM permalink
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If you are using the Wizard's strat maker it uses a general algorithm which will end up ordering and grouping non conflicting plays, which might look weird but are none the less valid.


yes, wiz's strat maker.

but w7 and wT can be conflicting.. lol
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May 28th, 2016 at 8:11:31 PM permalink
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yes, wiz's strat maker.

but w7 and wT can be conflicting.. lol



what pay table are you using ? The default (1.006463 return). They aren't on the same line. See: https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/strategy/a-1-b-79-c-1-d-0-d-1-d-1-d-2-d-3-d-5-d-7-d-20-d-50-d-100-d-200-d-800/
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May 28th, 2016 at 8:17:03 PM permalink
I used to play jokers a lot and that game makes no sense.
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May 28th, 2016 at 8:26:35 PM permalink
Quote: DiscreteMaths2

what pay table are you using ? The default (1.006463 return). They aren't on the same line. See: https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/strategy/a-1-b-79-c-1-d-0-d-1-d-1-d-2-d-3-d-5-d-7-d-20-d-50-d-100-d-200-d-800/


99.29%:
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/strategy/a-1-b-79-c-1-d-0-d-1-d-1-d-2-d-3-d-5-d-7-d-18-d-50-d-100-d-200-d-940/
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May 28th, 2016 at 8:55:00 PM permalink
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99.29%:
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/strategy/a-1-b-79-c-1-d-0-d-1-d-1-d-2-d-3-d-5-d-7-d-18-d-50-d-100-d-200-d-940/



Ok, so in that case you would just pick one and then make sure your 5 cards are not in any of exceptions. If there is an exception you could end up playing the other card with the wild or even something else with the wild like a 5 or 6 for example instead.
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May 28th, 2016 at 8:56:32 PM permalink
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I used to play jokers a lot and that game makes no sense.




It did on Tuesdays when the Hacienda gave 4X points and they still had a couple machines that paid 4700 for the royal and they had a card-of-the-day and you could get a comped buffet after playing through $500 coin-in. Ah, those were the days. Dotty's can kiss my ass.
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