yellow62
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October 14th, 2015 at 10:19:13 AM permalink
Its funny to me to see online casinos have feature called Auto-hold. Where they basicly hold cards for you and all you need to do is press GO GO GO. And its always the optimal strategy that is played .If that option doesnt tell people who want to win that its impossible i dont know what does.

What im wondering is WHY would casinos put this auto-hold feature in their video poker?
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October 14th, 2015 at 10:24:02 AM permalink
Quote: yellow62

Its funny to me to see online casinos have feature called Auto-hold. Where they basicly hold cards for you and all you need to do is press GO GO GO. And its always the optimal strategy that is played .If that option doesnt tell people who want to win that its impossible i dont know what does.

What im wondering is WHY would casinos put this auto-hold feature in their video poker?


I've only come across one machine in a casino with an auto hold on it and it did NOT use optimal strategy.
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October 14th, 2015 at 10:27:17 AM permalink
The auto-hold I've encountered simply holds a dealt paying hand.

Holding a dealt paying hand is often, but not always, the optimal play.

What did it auto-hold in the case of a dealt non-paying hand?
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October 14th, 2015 at 10:57:10 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

The auto-hold I've encountered simply holds a dealt paying hand.

Holding a dealt paying hand is often, but not always, the optimal play.

What did it auto-hold in the case of a dealt non-paying hand?


In my case, the machine was a slant type spin poker game. It auto held on every deal. Basically is held the right cards about 99.8% of the time. Most of its "mistakes" were on BS exceptions. The machine is no longer there.
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October 14th, 2015 at 11:07:02 AM permalink
Quote: yellow62

And its always the optimal strategy that is played.



No, no it isn't. Not even close. And, especially online, that might have a lot to do with why it's offered.
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October 14th, 2015 at 11:20:44 AM permalink
I'm 99.54% sure the auto-hold with Microgaming is 100% perfect. I've let it crank away betting my money on auto-hold and auto-play lots of times.
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October 14th, 2015 at 1:19:32 PM permalink
The Auto-Hold feature on Mission2Game was beyond awful and incorrect. Play 100 hands and I'd be willing to bet you'd see at least 10 incorrect hands.

I've never really seen many other auto-hold features other than that though, so maybe my opinion of them is skewed.
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October 14th, 2015 at 2:17:21 PM permalink
Yeah, I was checking that out on the "Scientific" VP game they have last night. (9/6 JOB). Had my Wizard/JB strat card right next to it as it auto-held. Failing grade several times, though I don't have numbers for you. If there's a way to turn it off, I don't know what it is.

On the recovery topic: no response or acknowledgement yet to my email requesting a full cash withdrawal. Status quo on account pages.
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October 14th, 2015 at 2:26:28 PM permalink
The auto hold on Winaday is supposed to be perfect - based on royal paying 4000 per unit, but their royal only pays 500 and the autohold still goes for royals.
yellow62
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October 14th, 2015 at 2:41:30 PM permalink
I just did 50 more hands with wizards simple strategy list at my side . Auto-hold was 100% accurate which didnt surprise me cause it was never wrong before.
Do some casinos do this to attrack succers cause they maybe dont get enough video poker players or what? I wonder
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October 17th, 2015 at 10:43:03 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm 99.54% sure the auto-hold with Microgaming is 100% perfect. I've let it crank away betting my money on auto-hold and auto-play lots of times.

that sounds like a challenge to me. I haven't any prior knowledge of this outo hold but I can't imagine it's 100% accurate on all their VP games. I would be both impressed and scared if it was.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 18th, 2015 at 4:36:41 AM permalink
If we have 15-20% cashback on our net losses per month in a casino does that make us automatically profitable in video poker if we play perfectly or let this auto-hold play? If so by how much are we winning ? Or it isnt so?
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October 18th, 2015 at 7:11:53 AM permalink
Quote: zuti6

If we have 15-20% cashback on our net losses per month in a casino does that make us automatically profitable in video poker if we play perfectly or let this auto-hold play? If so by how much are we winning ? Or it isnt so?

short answer is Yes. But there's a strategy for doing this. Agian I think you should ask where the information is and how to figure it out if your serious about this. Getting the awnser and not understanding isn't much help in the long run.

Hint If you play 1 hand of high limit VP each month and get a rebate on that hand you have a very nice percentage but low profit.

Unfortunately this is online and there's all kinds of shenanigans online so I wouldn't do anything that you can't confortably afford to lose.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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