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November 19th, 2013 at 10:15:31 PM permalink
Title as long as it is pretty much says it all, seeing as my statistical prowess is rather lacking I was wondering if someone could tell me which would be a better game to put my money towards. I will either be playing $1 7 coin double super times pay bonus poker 7-5, 5 hand, at 35 credit for $35 total or $2 7 coin double super times pay bonus poker 7-5, at 21 credit or $42 total. Thanks in advance for any help and sorry if has been posted before, I couldn't find it at all, albeit my search for it was not the most thorough. As a sidnote hit my first royal yesterday on $1 7 coin 3 hand DSTp 9-5 held j 10 suited 3rd hand hit took me less than 10 hands playing to hit it.
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November 20th, 2013 at 1:32:34 AM permalink
I realize I may not have posted enough information

paytable

royal 800-1
Sflush 50-1
4 aces 80-1
4 2s,3s,4s 40-1
4oak 25-1
full house 7-1
flush 5-1
straight 4-1
trips 3-1
2pair 2-1
pair 1-1

this is of course based on the 5 credit max not including the 2 extra for the option of dstp
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November 20th, 2013 at 1:56:36 AM permalink
If that paytable is correct and it's not a Class II game, the return is 100.83%. Playing 5 hands with a $1 denomination would have lower variance than 3 hands with a $2 denomination.
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November 20th, 2013 at 2:15:54 AM permalink
Sorry fairly new, not sure what you mean by class II game and lower variance i assume is better no? And thanks for your help

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did some reading on class II still not entirely sure how to make the distinction but i did have a very good run the other day, bought in for $500 hit the royal, hand pay, then continued to play and hit a couple of 4oak and good multiplier wins turned $500 into $5700 fairly quickly and often on the machine i will hold a high card over 4 to a low inside straight and sure enough two of the three hands will have drawn the card for the inside. Not sure if that signifies anything, or how exactly I can tell if it is class II
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November 20th, 2013 at 3:11:50 AM permalink
I guess the most obvious hand to tell if it is class II or not would be the dealt 4oak from tonight
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November 20th, 2013 at 3:13:17 AM permalink
If it's Class III, the machine's signage will usually say something like "Game uses one 52-card deck"

If it is Class II, it might say something like "Game simulates one 52-card deck" and/or will mention bingo, and/or there will be a bingo card somewhere on the display. There may also be a "genie card" or "match card" mechanism, restoring a winning hand on the draw if you accidentally or intentionally discard a dealt winner.

The reason I am suspicious is because 9/5 Bonus Poker is unheard of. It would return 100.3174% without the Double Super Times Pay feature, and 100.83% with it, if cards were dealt fairly. I can't help but suspect that there is something amiss; casinos don't typically offer games with such a huge player advantage. I can't even see IGT including 9/5 Bonus Poker as a paytable the casino could choose to offer, unless it was a Class II machine.
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November 20th, 2013 at 3:23:05 AM permalink
I will need to look at the pay table again and verify I am correct, but after looking at my states gambling laws I am still uncertain based on two articles from the law.

(3) It must use a random selection process to
determine the outcome of each play of a game. The random selection process must meet 99% confidence limits using a standard chi-squared test for (randomness) goodness of fit.

        (9) The theoretical payback percentage of a video
     gaming terminal must not be capable of being changed without making a hardware or software change in the video gaming terminal, either on site or via the central communications system.

I am gambling iIllinois, specifically rivers casino
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November 20th, 2013 at 3:30:51 AM permalink
Is the game in a tribal casino or a commercial casino?
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November 20th, 2013 at 3:33:28 AM permalink
After racking my brain I believe I was mistaken, I switch between 2 machines one 9-5 job Super times pay and the other one in question which after more thought I think is a 7-5 machine because i remember on the 5hand play thinking oh full house I get my money back. Sorry for the.confusion. commercial cosino
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November 20th, 2013 at 3:35:46 AM permalink
Fixed previous posts with wrong pay table except thread title :( , so now my question am I better off with the 9-5STP job vs the 7-5 dstp bonus poker, thanks again for all your help and patience jb
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