Bonus Draw Jokers Double Raise Up!
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Quote: smurfetteI have this VP game at my local casino. Apologies if this has been posted but I couldn't find it on search. Do people know the payout and strategy for this game?
http://rgbgames.com/ssm/bonusdraw-raiseup-jokersdouble.html
The paytable in the screenshots from that site seems to reflect a perfectly graduated payout. As far as the strategy goes, I'm not the one to ask, maybe JB can help if he sees this.
Clearly you'd go ahead and Raise Up your bet anytime the expected value of your drawing hand exceeded the base amount bet, because double the expected value of the drawing hand would then exceed double the new amount bet.
Quote: 98ClubsThe details are sparse to say the least. I am thinking the "Bonus Draw" is a 2nd draw if needed? if so, an interesting format.
2nd draws are triggered if you have 3 Jacks or better after Draw 1.
Quote: tringlomane2nd draws are triggered if you have 3 Jacks or better after Draw 1.
It says three JoB OR 4OaK, so strictly speaking, not all hands better than three JoB, I wouldn't think. I would surmise that anything in the Straight or Flush family as well as 5OaK's wouldn't count for it.
Quote: Mission146It says three JoB OR 4OaK, so strictly speaking, not all hands better than three JoB, I wouldn't think. I would surmise that anything in the Straight or Flush family as well as 5OaK's wouldn't count for it.
That's bizzare..."Jacks or better" by definition is "Jacks....or a hand that would beat Jacks", so what's with the second threshold skipping a bunch of hands better than Jacks in between?
Quote: beachbumbabsThat's bizzare..."Jacks or better" by definition is "Jacks....or a hand that would beat Jacks", so what's with the second threshold skipping a bunch of hands better than Jacks in between?
I don't know for sure, that's just how I interpret the Rules. Could be like that Wheel Poker, or Pick-A-Card, or whatever. Four-of-a-Kinds are awesome, only way to get Bonus Games, Two Pairs only pay 1-for-1 and you are supposed to commit ritualistic suicide if you get a dealt Straight Flush because Straight Flushes are horrible...I hate those games, if you couldn't tell...
Quote: beachbumbabsThat's bizzare..."Jacks or better" by definition is "Jacks....or a hand that would beat Jacks", so what's with the second threshold skipping a bunch of hands better than Jacks in between?
The game clearly states 3 Jacks or better, or any four of a kind. A pair of Jacks doesn't do anything for the redraw. And you're right mission, straights or flushes aren't included (you wouldn't want to break those anyway I think).
Quote: Mission146I don't know for sure, that's just how I interpret the Rules. Could be like that Wheel Poker, or Pick-A-Card, or whatever. Four-of-a-Kinds are awesome, only way to get Bonus Games, Two Pairs only pay 1-for-1 and you are supposed to commit ritualistic suicide if you get a dealt Straight Flush because Straight Flushes are horrible...I hate those games, if you couldn't tell...
Did you look at that paytable right? A straight flush at 40 for 1 with a wild card is pretty good. I would take a dealt SF anytime.
Quote: tringlomane
Did you look at that paytable right? A straight flush at 40 for 1 with a wild card is pretty good. I would take a dealt SF anytime.
I meant games like Wheel Poker and the Pick a Card when you get Quads poker game, not this Wild Card game.
Here is my interpretation of the rules based on everything seen on the web page:
- A 53-card deck is used (standard 52 plus a fully-wild Joker)
- Player may double down after the deal (before the first draw)
- A second draw is awarded if the player has three Jacks/Queens/Kings/Aces, or Four of a Kind, after the first draw
- A winning hand that uses the Joker pays double the prize shown in the paytable
Quote: JBFirst time I've heard of this game. I am in the midst of a big project right now so probably won't have time to analyze this any time soon, if at all.
Here is my interpretation of the rules based on everything seen on the web page:
- A 53-card deck is used (standard 52 plus a fully-wild Joker)
- Player may double down after the deal (before the first draw)
- A second draw is awarded if the player has three Jacks/Queens/Kings/Aces, or Four of a Kind, after the first draw
- A winning hand that uses the Joker pays double the prize shown in the paytable
This is the general gist I think; however, these games are primarily designed for Asia. Do the probabilities of the standard poker deck generally apply for that region as well?
Quote: tringlomaneThis is the general gist I think; however, these games are primarily designed for Asia. Do the probabilities of the standard poker deck generally apply for that region as well?
A deck of cards should have the same probability regardless of what continent it is located on. If you were asking whether this game deals cards with the same probabilities as a natural deck, I have no idea. Judging by the paytable I would say that it probably does.
Quote: JBIf you were asking whether this game deals cards with the same probabilities as a natural deck, I have no idea. Judging by the paytable I would say that it probably does.
Thats what I meant. And yeah, I was leaning toward that too, fwiw.
