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Rigondeaux
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March 8th, 2016 at 9:14:18 AM permalink
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- The version of the pai gow poker story I heard was that it was a full table with the 7csf guy being the only one not playing the bonus, and he tries to get a guarantee from all the other players.

- I find this to be less believable in that getting everyone else's attention to explain the situation at the table is next to impossible

- I find it more believable in that, if I was the only other player at the table and someone tried to pull this, I would tell him to f off, but if there were other players to exert peer pressure, I would probably agree to pay and hope he got hit by a bus later



I guess the optimal solution could be to offer him $100 or so. Being broke, he should take it.

Or, you could just agree and then stiff him.
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March 8th, 2016 at 1:41:19 PM permalink
Tell the guy you'll pay him. Then of course, don't. Easy.
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March 8th, 2016 at 1:55:20 PM permalink
Of course, it's not even an enforceable as it was made under duress- easy dismissal
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March 8th, 2016 at 3:24:52 PM permalink
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- The version of the pai gow poker story I heard was that it was a full table with the 7csf guy being the only one not playing the bonus, and he tries to get a guarantee from all the other players.

- I find this to be less believable in that getting everyone else's attention to explain the situation at the table is next to impossible

- I find it more believable in that, if I was the only other player at the table and someone tried to pull this, I would tell him to f off, but if there were other players to exert peer pressure, I would probably agree to pay and hope he got hit by a bus later



I have heard lately in the last several places I played PGP that the house will not allow the hand to be mucked without being exposed. Some version of, "yeah, maybe 20 years ago, but NOW, if we know someone has an envy pay (which they would if the player tries to hold the others up for a cut) we WILL expose and pay the envy bonus." So I think if that ever happened, it would not be mucked, because the envy pay is part of the stated odds (published with the jurisdiction) and must be paid.
"If the house lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game."
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March 8th, 2016 at 4:01:48 PM permalink
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I have heard lately in the last several places I played PGP that the house will not allow the hand to be mucked without being exposed. Some version of, "yeah, maybe 20 years ago, but NOW, if we know someone has an envy pay (which they would if the player tries to hold the others up for a cut) we WILL expose and pay the envy bonus." So I think if that ever happened, it would not be mucked, because the envy pay is part of the stated odds (published with the jurisdiction) and must be paid.



Kudos to any casino who does that. I would think that most casinos would jump at the chance to not pay that out, and they'd be justified. A mucked hand is dead.
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Wizardofnothing
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March 8th, 2016 at 4:45:34 PM permalink
First off from my knowledge all pai gow games have scannable shufflers which are always now checked when the bonus is hit so I would assume they could go back to those- I've had them go back and look at the computer on missed hands recently ,
As far as not being able to muck. I can confirm that this is the case now at Foxwoods
Which by the way drives me in sane that I am forced to set my second hand house way when playing tiles yet in pai gow poker I can set both
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March 8th, 2016 at 4:58:57 PM permalink
Urban legend on this story is that if the other players don't pay him, he drops the cards on the floor and the casino won't pay since they left the table.
Wizardofnothing
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March 8th, 2016 at 5:19:57 PM permalink
This guy had the seven card straight flush and no one would give him extra money so this is what he did

http://i.imgur.com/MvpTQMa.jpg
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March 8th, 2016 at 6:06:36 PM permalink
I have played holdem in places where as long as you were dealt in the hand(even if you all ready folded) you can ask to see a called hand. When someone does this sometimes I'll purposely bury or fling my cards into the muck.

They are taking advantage of a rule specifically made to detect cheating. Some poker rooms have made it so that you specifically have to claim you suspect someone is cheating.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 8th, 2016 at 7:21:44 PM permalink
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This guy had the seven card straight flush and no one would give him extra money so this is what he did

http://i.imgur.com/MvpTQMa.jpg



He tore up what looks to be a pai gow?

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