UCivan
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June 15th, 2015 at 2:39:01 PM permalink
I don't play Baccarat myself. A friend asked me about the differences between 6- and 8-deck. I don't have a clue other than these:

- casinos refer 8-deck, playing more hands per shoe. (May be players too)

- all known side bets give 8-deck higher house edge (????) than 6-deck

What other differences? house edge? card counting?
miplet
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June 15th, 2015 at 3:23:27 PM permalink
Not much difference in 6 or 8 decks for the main and side bets.
Bet6 decks8 decksDifference
Banker-0.010558487-0.010579058-0.000020571
Player-0.012374149-0.0123508130.000023336
Tie-0.144381598-0.1435962880.000785310
Dragon Bonus Player-0.02667513-0.0265167450.000158385
Dragon Bonus Banker-0.0938893-0.093730740.000158559
4-5-6 (4)-0.052687369-0.052828773-0.000141404
4-5-6 (5)-0.089380619-0.089667494-0.000286875
4-5-6 (6)-0.047394538-0.0469379780.000456560
Lucky Bonus0.0230445710.0234106010.000366030
3 Card 6-0.134455835-0.1336761250.000779710
Dragon 7-0.076061905-0.076113345-0.000051440
Panda 8-0.102073833-0.1018763220.000197512
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UCivan
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June 15th, 2015 at 3:31:07 PM permalink
miplet, nice job. So, not because of the side bet.
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June 15th, 2015 at 5:36:41 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

- all known side bets give 8-deck higher house edge (????) than 6-deck

The Pairs bet (pair pays 11-to-1) also has a lower house edge with 8 decks than with 6 decks.
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RoyalBJ
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June 16th, 2015 at 6:32:55 AM permalink
Which casinos in las Vegas or Washington or anywhere in USA play 6 deck Baccarat? I have not seen one. Have u seen it anywhere?
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June 16th, 2015 at 7:57:12 AM permalink
Quote: RoyalBJ

Which casinos in las Vegas or Washington or anywhere in USA play 6 deck Baccarat? I have not seen one. Have u seen it anywhere?



Victory Casino Cruise out of Port Canaveral FL deals 6 deck mini-bac, hand shuffled. They cut 16 cards off the back. Minimum bet $5.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
UCivan
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June 17th, 2015 at 3:32:17 PM permalink
This posting appears on the other thread that discussed Lucky 8:

Quote: Deck007

All you Mathematicians here don't seem to know what is going on in the REAL WORLD.

There is no more Commission Baccarat.

You only get only Non-Commission Baccarat now. B6 win half bet.

It is the speed of play that is important to the casinos. Make much more money this way than the slightly higher HE.

Now if only you guys can take a shot at how much faster it can be played then I will know how much more it will cost me.



It might be better to include the above here.

Deck007 was right about Commission Free Baccarat, because Asian gamble friends told me CFB is popular in Singapore. WOO show the 8 deck data here

Commission Free Baccarat - 8 decks

HE for B8 = 1.46%. I wonder what the house edges for 6 decks CFB is.
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June 17th, 2015 at 4:17:07 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

This posting appears on the other thread that discussed Lucky 8:



It might be better to include the above here.

Deck007 was right about Commission Free Baccarat, because Asian gamble friends told me CFB is popular in Singapore. WOO show the 8 deck data here

Commission Free Baccarat - 8 decks

HE for B8 = 1.46%. I wonder what the house edges for 6 decks CFB is.


EVENTPAYSCOMBINATIONSPROBABILITYRETURN
Banker wins with 60.5473222300313600.0538444510.026922226
Other Banker wins13557735212032000.4048082680.404808268
Tie0835529629322880.0950687110
Loser-13922204927288320.44627857-0.44627857
Total8788692068956801-0.014548077
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