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darthxaos
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November 19th, 2013 at 7:50:38 AM permalink
Don't normally play table games, but I have $10 match play.

Casino charges a $0.50 fee per hand on table games, so, assuming my best EV is to make one big bet.

What game should I play, and should I fire it all in one big bet or make multiple bets.

Games they have are Blackjack, Pai Gow Poker, "Roulette" (with a video screen instead of an actual wheel), Mississippi Stud, Let It Ride, Pick One 21, 3 card Poker, Ultimate TX Hold Em, Dragon Baccarat, that I recall.
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November 19th, 2013 at 9:48:29 AM permalink
Quote: darthxaos

Don't normally play table games, but I have $10 match play.

Casino charges a $0.50 fee per hand on table games, so, assuming my best EV is to make one big bet.

What game should I play, and should I fire it all in one big bet or make multiple bets.

Games they have are Blackjack, Pai Gow Poker, "Roulette" (with a video screen instead of an actual wheel), Mississippi Stud, Let It Ride, Pick One 21, 3 card Poker, Ultimate TX Hold Em, Dragon Baccarat, that I recall.



1 hand of Blackjack, pass line on craps, or red/black on roulette.

Winstar charges money on every table game per hand or just certain limits?
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November 19th, 2013 at 9:51:07 AM permalink
Per hand. Oklahoma tribal tax of some kind.
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November 19th, 2013 at 9:58:29 AM permalink
I don't think craps is available anywhere in Oklahoma. Screwy.

And .50 per hand? HE isn't enough? Wow! Greedy and screwy.
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November 19th, 2013 at 11:10:55 AM permalink
Quote: Alan

I don't think craps is available anywhere in Oklahoma. Screwy.

And .50 per hand? HE isn't enough? Wow! Greedy and screwy.



Choctaw has some kind of weird craps done with cards. The funny thing is the table still has the rubber bumpy pyramids for dice even though the felt has pictures of cards on it.
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November 19th, 2013 at 11:27:38 AM permalink
I wonder if it's a superstition or something.

Craps with cards, which I have never experienced sounds really lame. Part of the excitement is watching the dice fly and the short wait for them to finally stop and reveal their numbers-good, bad or neutral.

I have no suggestion on how to use your $10, but good luck.
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November 19th, 2013 at 11:46:39 AM permalink
Quote: Alan

I wonder if it's a superstition or something.



I would assume it's cheaper to buy a normal table from a normal distributor.

And fire it on one hand, preferably on the days the house doesn't charge that fee. (I swear I have read they occasionally do that at some OK casinos.) If every game still charges the fee, I play BJ if you get 3 to 2 on the free play. Otherwise, craps. If it's match play where the coupon is always surrendered and if they somehow allow it's use on non-even money bets, then go for a single number on roulette.
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November 19th, 2013 at 11:47:33 AM permalink
Quote: Alan

I wonder if it's a superstition or something.



All table games in Oklahoma need to be card-based games according to the treaty between the tribes and the state regulators. Some casinos have cards-based roulettes or craps.
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November 19th, 2013 at 12:54:42 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

I would assume it's cheaper to buy a normal table from a normal distributor.

And fire it on one hand, preferably on the days the house doesn't charge that fee. (I swear I have read they occasionally do that at some OK casinos.) If every game still charges the fee, I play BJ if you get 3 to 2 on the free play. Otherwise, craps. If it's match play where the coupon is always surrendered and if they somehow allow it's use on non-even money bets, then go for a single number on roulette.


We had a casino manager from an OK casino hanging around here for a while...don't remember his username...anyway, that is absolutely correct. There were several ways to get around the collection fee, mostly involving joining the player's club and playing during certain "happy hours." Didn't seem like a hard and fast rule at all.
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November 19th, 2013 at 1:53:54 PM permalink
Well, they do use a single die and it's made out of paper and the die is large, almost 5 inches. The player throws that die and dealer uses cards marked with numbers 1 to 6, whatever combination they get that's your number. I'm not sure, but I think that is how it works.
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November 19th, 2013 at 2:44:26 PM permalink
Actually the best game you can play it on is the play bet in 3CP. You can get more than $5 in value for it. Google "Beyond Coupons." Even better would be the fourth or fifth street bets in MS Stud when you have a pat paying pair. (Ask if they will let you play it there).

I pretty much always play them on roulette. The convenience and quickness is worth more than the couple $0.XX I get from playing it on another game.
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November 19th, 2013 at 3:47:40 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Actually the best game you can play it on is the play bet in 3CP. You can get more than $5 in value for it. Google "Beyond Coupons." Even better would be the fourth or fifth street bets in MS Stud when you have a pat paying pair. (Ask if they will let you play it there).

I pretty much always play them on roulette. The convenience and quickness is worth more than the couple $0.XX I get from playing it on another game.



Play bet doesn't sound like a good option for me, I'm looking to not spend any more than $10.50 on table games, just enough to get use of the coupon, for the play bet I would have to bet another $10 on the ante...
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November 19th, 2013 at 3:51:29 PM permalink
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November 19th, 2013 at 6:43:34 PM permalink
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Is it "can be used on even money bets only"?



Called the casino, they said no. The catch is must play 1 live rated hand prior to redemption. Also roulette is not eligible, only games played out of the "blackjack pits", BJ, Ultimate THE, etc.

I believe the blackjack tables all have minimum bets of $10, some of the others have $5
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