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November 9th, 2011 at 10:08:45 AM permalink
thecesspit
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The free kick would only be taken in the final seconds of a half. It might happen if a team took a penalty applied to a kick off, so they kick from the 20 (or punted from deep, but why a team would be punting with seconds left, I'm not sure, when taking a knee should un off the clock), and then on the ensuing kick off, there was a unsportsmanlike conduct, adding 15 yards to the fair catch marker.

This is pretty much the situation I first heard about it, though the catch was made at teams own ~ 30, with the 15 yards penalty assessed for a intentional face mask (I think), making a kick from the 45... a 65 yarder. Wasn't attempted. Which seemed odd to me... why wouldn't you? The ball isn't dead after the kick, so i guess if it fails you have to play coverage, but if it's last gasp anyways, any team not recovering and taking a knee is not thinking (see the Iggle Tied game, as Nareed mentioned).

I can think of other times it might occur, but they are much like a retiring QB kicking a drop goal with his last play of his professional career (which I still think was an awesome thing for the Pats to let him do).
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November 9th, 2011 at 11:31:54 AM permalink
slyther
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Back to the increase in FG's: Not mentioned yet was the shortened offseason due to the labor dispute. Less off season workouts, shorter training camps, etc. But now the defenses are catching up and the yards/scores being posted are going down.
January 3rd, 2012 at 8:42:47 AM permalink
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Here is an update to this topic. Naturally, as soon as I quit betting first score to be a touchdown and under 3.5 field goals the number of field goals came down per game came down. Here are the totals for the regular season.

Team Made Attempted
Ariz 19 24
Atl 27 29
Bal 30 39
Buf 23 31
Car 22 28
Chic 28 32
Cin 33 38
Clev 24 29
Dal 32 37
Den 19 25
Det 24 29
GB 24 28
Hou 32 38
Ind 23 27
Jac 23 25
KC 24 30
Mia 33 39
Min 22 28
NE 28 33
NO 28 34
NYG 19 24
NYJ 19 25
Oak 31 35
Phil 24 27
Pitt 23 31
SD 28 35
SF 44 52
Sea 25 30
StL 21 28
TB 26 28
Ten 29 32
Wash 31 41
Total 838 1011
Average 26.19 31.59
Average per game 1.64 1.97


So, the average field goals per game was 3.27. Compare that to 2.98 for the previous 11 seasons. You may recall it was 3.34 in my mid-season post at the beginning of this thread.

If we assume that 2.98 is the fair average, the probability of having an average of 3.24 or higher for an entire regular season is 0.37%. Is it just chance or did something change about the game? The answer to that I just don't know. It may be a combination.

Also note the percentage of field goals made to attempts was 82.9%. That figure will come in handy on the missed field goal prop on the Super Bowl.
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January 3rd, 2012 at 8:51:00 AM permalink
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Quote: Wizard
If we assume that 2.98 is the fair average, the probability of having an average of 3.24 or higher for an entire regular season is 0.93%. Is it just chance or did something change about the game? The answer to that I just don't know. It may be a combination.

Well, kickoffs were moved up 5 yards, leading to more touchbacks and therefore more drives starting on the 20yd line vs. further upfield. At first blush that would seem to increase the number of drives ending in field goals vs. punts.
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January 3rd, 2012 at 9:29:05 AM permalink
boymimbo
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A couple of comments.

First, i think that over time, field goal kickers are getting better. 5 of the 9 field goals made over 60 yards occured in the last 6 years. This year is especially notable. I have two stories:

(ESPN: David Akers reigns as kicking king)
(LA Times: In the NFL, 50 (yards) is new 40).

Secondly, an anemic offense and strong defences will lead to more field goal attempts. With the absence of Favre and Manning, you might be able to argue that offenses are less potent.
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January 3rd, 2012 at 10:10:46 AM permalink
thecesspit
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Except there was three QBs who passed for over 5000 yards this season.... I think offences where in general MORE potent this year (was their more points in total scored this year?), which would lead to in general more scoring, both FG and TDs.
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January 3rd, 2012 at 10:46:56 AM permalink
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Quote: MathExtremist
Well, kickoffs were moved up 5 yards, leading to more touchbacks and therefore more drives starting on the 20yd line vs. further upfield. At first blush that would seem to increase the number of drives ending in field goals vs. punts.


It would seem the opposite to me. Drives are starting further back. Given the same yards advanced either way, what before might have been a field goal attempt would turn into a punt.
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January 3rd, 2012 at 10:55:28 AM permalink
MathExtremist
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Quote: Wizard
It would seem the opposite to me. Drives are starting further back. Given the same yards advanced either way, what before might have been a field goal attempt would turn into a punt.

By the same token, many touchdowns would turn into field goal attempts. Clearly it's not sound to reason precisely that way because offense changes based on field location, but I'm not sure which effect is more prevalent.

Can you correlate starting drive position with drive result? And then map that to the distribution of this year's starting drive position (which should be much heavier on the 20 yard line)?
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January 3rd, 2012 at 12:29:34 PM permalink
vert1276
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I didn't read the thread...so someone may have covered this BUT....Here is my 2 cents. Scoring in general will continue to increase. Thats what the NFL wants. More scoring means more excitement which means more fans. Rule changes on the defensive side of the ball have made scoring easier. Then add on top of that a real emphasis on protecting players, like WR's and QB's has also make the game easier for the offense. This makes it easier to throw across the middle. Because of these rule changes more teams have switched to a "west coast" style of "spread" style offense. This depends heavily on the pass. This means teams are drafting a different type of running back and different type of offensive lineman. The "3 yards and a cloud of dust" type of NFL is really coming to an end. As an offense moves the ball into the "red zone" it become easier for the defense becasue the field is smaller. And with a less effective running game it becasue harder for the offense to score. This means more field goals. Although this model doesn't always hold true. Like for example the 49ers....who have an excellent running game with Gore and a sub par passing game with Alex Smith. and their Field goal kicker David Akers broke the NFL record this year for field goals made.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:36:18 PM permalink
vert1276
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it would also be interesting to see data on number of possessions...to see it that has increased as well.....with less running and more passing the drives are shorter. and even a "3 and out" by the offense with 2 or 3 passing plays takes less off the clock then 2 or 3 running plays. Meaning "in theory" more total possession per game. So maybe the total field goals have increased per game becasue the average number of possessions have increased per game. I'm not gonna try and find the data LOL....but it could be the reason!
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