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RisingDough
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March 14th, 2017 at 12:12:28 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I might like when you post your picks, post some randomly picked picks against them, which could repeat your own picks. Like you pick 3 games, 3 games are chosen randomly from all available. I thought about the same thing you've done, but for horseracing, but to show how useless a guru can be. Maybe next year I'll do it.




Meaning no edge is to be had? You'd do just as well picking by random?

I'm not sure if I have an edge and if I do it's pretty small at this point but I know there are people who make quite a bit of money betting sports. Obviously the touts that sell their picks are all garbage salesman and you cannot win by paying for picks.
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March 14th, 2017 at 10:07:57 AM permalink
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Meaning no edge is to be had? You'd do just as well picking by random?

I'm not sure if I have an edge and if I do it's pretty small at this point but I know there are people who make quite a bit of money betting sports. Obviously the touts that sell their picks are all garbage salesman and you cannot win by paying for picks.

The main point is if you're picking based on conditions, at the same time, designate as many not based on conditions, just to see how you match up. Then you can see how you compare to random picks.

With me, the best I can do is visual handicapping and reading others opinions, handicapping handicappers, as far as racing. Cannot really read a racing form yet, when I can, I'll probably wonder the point as much as now, wondering what difference there is.
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March 14th, 2017 at 10:36:31 AM permalink
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With me, the best I can do is visual handicapping and reading others opinions, handicapping handicappers, as far as racing. Cannot really read a racing form yet, when I can, I'll probably wonder the point as much as now, wondering what difference there is.



The racing form is not often very useful in gaining an edge but it sometimes is. If there are 12 horses in a race it's very possible that even a knowledgeable handicapper missed something important about 1 or 2 horses. News coverage of racing is generally only very good for big races, not for the little ones. I once found a horse racing in the slop let off at 6/1 when he had won and excelled in the slop at the same level 2 races back. You would think that everybody would have seen that and bet the horse down but sometimes it doesn't happen. I have seen a cheap speed horse who always takes the early lead and then falters being shortened to 4 furlongs and should have been bet way down but wasn't. I hope you don't mind me saying so but I think you would benefit by learning to read the form.
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March 14th, 2017 at 3:47:37 PM permalink
Live from Las Vegas!!

Tuesday..

Pistons +7.5
Pelicans -3.5
OVER 210 nyk/ind
UNDER 226 okc/brk


Gl

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March 15th, 2017 at 3:28:28 PM permalink
Quote: RisingDough

UNDER 226 okc/brk

ok. final score
okc 122
nets 104
total: 226

btw,
14 free throws missed (I guess free comes at a cost)

why is this considered a push? My hubby pushed too.

the total was not under 226
so I think the sportsbook wins the bet...

the total was not over 226
so I think the sportsbook wins the bet for
those that bet over

is there some rule
that makes the sportsbook not win both?

Go Wildcats!
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March 15th, 2017 at 4:09:39 PM permalink
Today played ind und 202.5, min+6, bulls und 201.5, phx -5.5

Ill update record tonight


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RisingDough
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March 15th, 2017 at 4:10:54 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

ok. final score
okc 122
nets 104
total: 226

btw,
14 free throws missed (I guess free comes at a cost)

why is this considered a push? My hubby pushed too.

the total was not under 226
so I think the sportsbook wins the bet...

the total was not over 226
so I think the sportsbook wins the bet for
those that bet over

is there some rule
that makes the sportsbook not win both?

Go Wildcats!
Sally



If it lands right on the number it's considered a push with bets being refunded.
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March 15th, 2017 at 4:38:39 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

ok. final score
okc 122
nets 104
total: 226

btw,
14 free throws missed (I guess free comes at a cost)

why is this considered a push? My hubby pushed too.

the total was not under 226
so I think the sportsbook wins the bet...

the total was not over 226
so I think the sportsbook wins the bet for
those that bet over

is there some rule
that makes the sportsbook not win both?

Go Wildcats!
Sally

Think how much money they keep when people assumed they had lost. A lot. I even almost threw away a $70 winning ticket on a horse bet because somehow I watched the wrong race and the horse with similar odds was at the same post. Naturally I checked it, like I normally do, but I could possibly under the right conditions, procrastinate and never check. I usually keep them in my wallet until I finally check, but mistakes happen.

The pick races offer consolations if horses are scratched, transferring your picks to post time favorites. Now that may seem fair, but it truthfully isn't. If the people don't understand the rules, they might assume they just didn't win, and never cash. In such cases, the true winners get diluted by these people and lose that fraction to the lost and found. I think it would be fairer to refund that bet and let tracks lose out on commission than short changing winners. The tracks get paid twice in this system. If you wager electronically, tickets are never forgotten and are automatically credited to accounts if winners. It's the true golden rule in effect, whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
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Nathan
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March 15th, 2017 at 5:58:44 PM permalink
I don't like the thought of betting on horses. If your horse trips, falls, and gets injured and cannot run anymore, you are screwed.
Guy "won" less than his bet and the slot machine had the audacity to tell him he got a big win! SMH! Also, the Nintendo cartridge is so much more important than the Nintendo console. Without the cartridge, the Nintendo console is just a useless box.
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March 16th, 2017 at 4:53:53 AM permalink
Updated record

YTD

Sides 16-12-2 +3units
Totals 14-10-1 +3 units

Overall 30-22-3 +6 units
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