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lilredrooster
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February 25th, 2017 at 12:24:11 PM permalink
Quote: Ernesto

Pimlico is down to 28 days. Only a share of casino profits keeps the owners from selling the land and " THE PREAKNESS "
What a racket ! Best thing about Timonium was , and still is, just not 30 days anymore, betting a race and watching it from the ferris wheel at Maryland State Fair. Nibbling on hot buttered cob of corn that cost $1 back then.
And of course on Preakness day charging people $5 to park on front lawn of a house on Roger's Avenue. Home owner not too happy when he got home... HaHa



Maryland racing is so crooked and everybody knows it. I capped a race at Laurel many years ago.. A claimer lost the last race by 30 lengths, the previous race by 32 lengths and he did not finish the race before that. He was just claimed by Scott Lake one of the notorious drug pushers and they bet him down to 7/2. What a joke.When I was like 10 years old I used to play pinball in a joint in Baltimore and the Manager paid you CASH if you took the machine to a certain level. That place was always rockin'. He had all the little kids hooked. Remember Marvin Mandel the Governor who along with his wife took a bunch of silverware and furniture out of the Governor's mansion when they left it?
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Ernesto
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February 25th, 2017 at 3:18:27 PM permalink
I remember when Marvin bought some land in the middle of nowhere, then suddenly the state was willing to pay 10 times what he paid as right of way for a highway. When questioned about it. Marvin said he always planned to be a farmer after he retired. I used to run heavy bets for a bookie when he had a lot of action on a first time starter or a horse who looked like shit on paper.
No exotics back then so when first time started for example went off even money, I would bet the 2k to place. Not unusual then with big fields for first time starter to pay $4.00 to win $ 3.60 to place. Henry could lose $40 or win $360.
Watching the Pope of Greenwich village I wondered why Mickey Rourke did not bet the horse to place ? ( which he did ) Mickey looked like guys I hung out with at the diner, which later became a movie. Mickey had an Oscar nomination as lead actor in " The Wrestler ".
Great quote in Pope movie. Guys I grew up with said same thing in different ways. HAHA

Charlie: Honest work. Let me tell ya somethin' about 'honest work'. When somebody says they got 'honest work', you know what they got? They got a shit job, that's what they got.
Ernesto
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February 25th, 2017 at 3:35:31 PM permalink
PInball machines. All paid off in 50's thru 90's and today it's vp in bars and diners. Mike probably know this place, I forget the name, bar a block from Social Security Bldg in Woodlawn. 4 machines, had to be emptied several times a week. I worked midnight to eight am . Me and a coworker would each lock up a machine playing a nickle at a time. Machine man would ask us to wait while he emptied, reset registers, etc. About 10 minutes. Then he would put 100 or 200 credits up for out trouble. Sometimes play to try and hit big, or just cash out. Place got busted one years, hey cops gotta do something if a loser's wife files a complaint.
Baltimore Sun reported records show owner profits over 250K. Actually was 500k each for a million plus.
Yes, they keep record, Makes Fed and State happy when you pay taxes. Say the win that week was $400, machine man and bar owner both put $100 each in the books. Assholes in Glen Burnie would each put down $5 a week for slots, Feds busted them all for good, DUMB
Want to open a restaurant, pool hall, bar back then. Need money? Interest free loan from machine man. He just kept all of the win until loan was paid. A good deal for all. Maybe with VP today, but I doubt it. Once State gets in gambling, they don't allow competition. On 1990 when Colorado when legal, you would get jail time if caught running your own card room. Before that, just a fine. Greedy bastards.
Rigondeaux
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February 25th, 2017 at 5:00:41 PM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

So, you share a link to a twitter user who links his site which is also a forum that allows sports picks with no arguments from a person who is argumentative on the subject? The hypocrisy is strong in this one....

I guess this is what someone could call indirect advertising or perhaps it should be called redirect advertising.



Lol. You actually try to pedal losing picks.

Grooven has or posts on a forum similar to this one. Haven't spent much time there but im pretty sure it's not a front for touting.

It doesn't even have gambling affiliate links.

It's hardly why i linked to his twitter.

So go ahead and specify the hypocrisy.
TomG
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February 25th, 2017 at 6:21:56 PM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

So, you share a link to a twitter user who links his site which is also a forum that allows sports picks with no arguments from a person who is argumentative on the subject? The hypocrisy is strong in this one....



Neither his twitter account, nor the other site is monetized in any way. Arguments are not only allowed, they are often encouraged on almost all of the platforms he participates in. It's good that there is one place where arguments aren't allowed.

There is no hypocrisy.
Boz
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February 25th, 2017 at 6:35:56 PM permalink
Quote: Ernesto

Grew up with Mike Warren in Pikesville. MD. Got his start selling a horse pick system, bet till you win $100 that day, then go home.
In 1970's he had so many customers, phone lines would get jammed on Saturday mornings. You had to wait 3 to 5 minutes in Pikesvilee to get dial tone. Sometimes sports sections of TV news would lead off with score on Mike's hot game, teams might not be in top 10 rankings.
Back then Jimmy the Greek on TV would give pix as winning by a field goal or a touchdown. NFL did not want points on picks.
Mike has a new website, don't go there, says his NEW system is picking 80% winners HAHAHA



I believe he also was in on the psychic friends network scam with Dionne Warwick at one point.

He also had ex Redskins QB Billy Kilmer on his roster to use his name for picks. But others has tried that as well. Oilers QB Dan Pasterini got into trouble with noted scamdicapper Jeff Allen from Henderson LV.
lilredrooster
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February 26th, 2017 at 12:20:01 AM permalink
Quote: Ernesto

PInball machines. All paid off in 50's thru 90's and today it's vp in bars and diners. Mike probably know this place, I forget the name, bar a block from Social Security Bldg in Woodlawn. 4 machines, had to be emptied several times a week. I worked midnight to eight am . Me and a coworker would each lock up a machine playing a nickle at a time. Machine man would ask us to wait while he emptied, reset registers, etc. About 10 minutes. Then he would put 100 or 200 credits up for out trouble. Sometimes play to try and hit big, or just cash out. Place got busted one years, hey cops gotta do something if a loser's wife files a complaint.
Baltimore Sun reported records show owner profits over 250K. Actually was 500k each for a million plus.
Yes, they keep record, Makes Fed and State happy when you pay taxes. Say the win that week was $400, machine man and bar owner both put $100 each in the books. Assholes in Glen Burnie would each put down $5 a week for slots, Feds busted them all for good, DUMB
Want to open a restaurant, pool hall, bar back then. Need money? Interest free loan from machine man. He just kept all of the win until loan was paid. A good deal for all. Maybe with VP today, but I doubt it. Once State gets in gambling, they don't allow competition. On 1990 when Colorado when legal, you would get jail time if caught running your own card room. Before that, just a fine. Greedy bastards.



Great stories. You should write a book. Title: "Crooked Maryland" Maryland is up there in crookedness with New Orleans. And New Orleans is really, really, really crooked. I read most of a long bio of James Cain the great mystery writer who was from Maryland. The author wrote about Cain carousing at "the block." He said the strippers were screwing customers in the bars there. AND THIS WAS IN THE 1940s!!! All kinds of monkey business on the Block. I could almost throw a stone from a bar there to the Baltimore Police Headquarters. Ha Ha
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onenickelmiracle
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March 6th, 2017 at 8:19:59 PM permalink
I noticed something funny about a commercial for a company called USA Insulation that advertises on TV. They had some middle aged guy with brown hair and reddish colored skin the last year, but changed hosts to an older man with white hair. The previous commercial host was touting a record cold winter like he did touting a record hot summer. Can definitely say this winter was by no means cold, and can safely assume the company didn't want that failure of the scare to be so easily remembered. It happens too in politics, replacing PR men at critical junctures, so the media has trouble cross examining the man who is no longer there and the stories die out.
Looks like sh!t just got imaginary!
groovinmahoovin
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March 15th, 2017 at 1:24:50 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Lol. You actually try to pedal losing picks.

Grooven has or posts on a forum similar to this one. Haven't spent much time there but im pretty sure it's not a front for touting.

It doesn't even have gambling affiliate links.



Correct. RTP isn't my site, it's run by "Jon in Oakland." We were posters on Fezzik's old forum and Jon created RTP after Fezzik's shut down in 2009. RTP is low traffic and the only ads it's ever had were some Google and Amazon ones that didn't even make enough money to cover the hosting bills; Jon runs it as a hobby, not as a profit venture. Bizarrely, quite a few of the touts & their defenders have accused me of being a "competitor" to the touts because I link to a low traffic forum my friend runs; one tout claimed on his radio show I run RTP to collect email addresses to spam people.

"No Arguments" is the name of RTP's picks forum and I posted picks there for years, but stopped when Fezzik started copying my picks to sell as his own. As I basically never argue with people who post picks for free (I can only think of one recent example, someone who claimed he picks 65% winners) and only argue with touts and people who promote touts, I don't think there's any hypocrisy.
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March 15th, 2017 at 3:10:43 AM permalink
Hi, groovin, and welcome to the forum.
"If the house lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game."

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