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New and Improved Slot Page
| January 14th, 2012 at 4:52:39 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 310 Posts: 6734 | I just completely rewrote my slot machine page. The old was primarily explained 3-reel single-line slots, which are becoming dated. The old page was perhaps also a bit too math heavy. In case anyone is interested, I moved most of the old page to slot machine appendix 6. So, please have a look. As usual, I welcome comments, corrections, and suggestions. It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
| January 14th, 2012 at 5:29:03 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6380 | "The higher the denomination, the better the odds. For that reason, it is better to play one coin per line on a 5-cent game than 5 coins per line on a 1-cent game." Do you mean its better to play one 5-cent credit per line on a 5-cent machine, than 5 cents per line on a 1 cent game? Why is that better? One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| January 14th, 2012 at 5:42:59 PM permalink | |
| duckmankilla Member since: Nov 25, 2011 Threads: 9 Posts: 132 | because the higher the denomination of slots, the better the paybacks generally become. Slots are still a terrible play, but slot machines at the $.05 denomination will have a higher EV than a penny slot. In the same vein, slot machines at $.25 denominations have higher paybacks than $.05 slots. And so on. |
| January 14th, 2012 at 6:29:26 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6380 | But you're also investing more, I don't see the difference. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| January 14th, 2012 at 7:02:30 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 310 Posts: 6734 |
Maybe I explained it badly, but you're not. The question is whether it is better to make a bet of five pennies or one nickel. I say one nickel, because as you move up in denomination the return gets betters. The player betting five pennies is going to get the lower 1¢ return. Let's look at an example. Casino X sets their 1¢ games at 90% and 5¢ games at 92%. Expected loss of 5¢; bet on a 1 ¢ game = 5 × $0.01 × 10% = 0.5 ¢ Expected loss of 5¢; bet on a 5 ¢ game = 1 × $0.05 × 8% = 0.4 ¢ It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
| January 14th, 2012 at 7:09:26 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6380 | My wife is hooked on the penny slots, even though every bet is .75 cents. Would she be better off playing .75 on the quarter slots? One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| January 14th, 2012 at 7:13:53 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 310 Posts: 6734 |
Absolutely! It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
| January 14th, 2012 at 7:22:40 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6380 | I'll tell her, but the 1 cent machines have so many whistles and bells and the quarter machines are boring by comparison. She'll be drawn back to the penny machines like a magnet. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| January 14th, 2012 at 7:26:20 PM permalink | |
| duckmankilla Member since: Nov 25, 2011 Threads: 9 Posts: 132 | This is the issue with slots. If i get a slot play freeplay, I realize that the EV is higher on higher denom machines, but I find the pennies so much more fascinating that the difference between say $18.00 in EV and $15.00 or $16.00 is more than made up for in entertainment value for me personally. Just to watch some of the bonus games is quite a lot of fun, though I am careful only to indulge in these guilty pleasures with casino funds. |
| January 14th, 2012 at 7:33:17 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6380 |
Thats whats got my wife hooked, the bonus spins. She'll blow a hundred bucks just trying to get 'one more bonus'. I want to throttle her. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
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