lightningbolts
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August 8th, 2017 at 8:20:58 PM permalink
Keep seeing these commercials where Stations are running a card-in bonus on all their machines. Could this be exploited with a large enough team at a smaller property during a good time of day and high enough meter? Something like Mystery Jackpots except it's on every machine with a card in:


https://www.stationcasinosblog.com/2017/07/a-brief-guide-to-winning-up-to-20k-cash-with-augusts-bigtimebonus/


https://bigtimebonus.vegas
billryan
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August 9th, 2017 at 8:21:49 AM permalink
IF it could, you can be sure the ones capable of doing so won't discuss it in public.
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Wizardofnothing
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August 9th, 2017 at 10:17:02 AM permalink
This isn't EVEN CLOSE. To a good play. There are 7-10 other casinos that I know of doing this and it's worth less then 10 dollars a person on the absolute best day.
Maryland live has it every day for months

When you say a big enough team- Like how many. 50? 100?
50 to even have a 20 percent chance at 20k? So worth what 80 dollars a person in a hypothetical situation
Can't possibly be with the coordination and nonsense
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lightningbolts
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August 9th, 2017 at 12:33:32 PM permalink
Everyone also gets 100 when it hits, but yeah I think I originally misread and thought it was on a machine instead of on every machine.
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August 11th, 2017 at 4:39:37 PM permalink
Quote: lightningbolts

Everyone also gets 100 when it hits, but yeah I think I originally misread and thought it was on a machine instead of on every machine.



I think you misread twice, one of the pages to which you linked says, "$5-$100 Free Play," and the other says, "Up to $100 in Free Play," so it's not a guaranteed $100.

They did this at a casino near me a couple of years ago, except I think everyone did get $100, period, when the big prize hit. There was also a small amount for the medium prize (there were three total prizes) maybe $10 FP, can't remember.

Anyway, if it was absolutely $100...yes, it's technically AP-able, but I seriously doubt if the expected hourly would be worth anyone's time. I also don't know what doing it as a team would really accomplish, unless it was EXTREMELY close to hitting.

Technically, if it was somewhat close, I suppose you could find a machine there upon which you could play $0.01/LIne/One Line/Spin and essentially just play enough to keep your card active. You would definitely have a positive EV, of course, it might take a few literal days for it to hit.

On the other hand, if they have 100%+ VP (with or without points) then the thing would just be icing on the cake if it hit while you're there.
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August 12th, 2017 at 7:45:09 AM permalink
i'm not a slot machine or vp guy so i thought i'd ask you experts a question. isn't it true that when you first sign up for a comp card that most large casinos will give some kind of halfway decent promo; free play or whatever. so couldn't somebody new to machine play exploit that by going to A.C. or vegas and getting comp cards in many different casinos and playing just long enough to get those bonuses? i know you won't get rich doing this but wouldn't it be a fairly significant trip positive?
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August 12th, 2017 at 7:53:44 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

i'm not a slot machine or vp guy so i thought i'd ask you experts a question. isn't it true that when you first sign up for a comp card that most large casinos will give some kind of halfway decent promo; free play or whatever. so couldn't somebody new to machine play exploit that by going to A.C. or vegas and getting comp cards in many different casinos and playing just long enough to get those bonuses? i know you won't get rich doing this but wouldn't it be a fairly significant trip positive?


Yea, new players can get extremely valuable loss rebates/free play offers. However it can be difficult to do this as an out of towner as the offers are generally targeting locals, and they can often only be picked up a few days-weeks later, or only come by mail.
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August 12th, 2017 at 2:52:50 PM permalink
And then they will cut the offers after using the first o e
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August 12th, 2017 at 6:50:51 PM permalink
Some of these things, like this mentioned promotion confuse me. It's written like just using your card is good enough(same odds), but these may take coin-in into account when awarding a winner. Comes down to whether or not your bet matters. If it does, for what reason are casinos hiding it, and how can they justify it by the rules. If a casino says no entries are required, seems like there is some kind of entry required.

I sent stations a message and they have not replied yet, totally ignored my questions.
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August 12th, 2017 at 10:20:05 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Some of these things, like this mentioned promotion confuse me. It's written like just using your card is good enough(same odds), but these may take coin-in into account when awarding a winner. Comes down to whether or not your bet matters. If it does, for what reason are casinos hiding it, and how can they justify it by the rules. If a casino says no entries are required, seems like there is some kind of entry required.

I sent stations a message and they have not replied yet, totally ignored my questions.



I wasn't going to get into this but I don't see the harm in trying to help some of you out that don't understand or are doing things wrong. First off... I don't understand the reason for emailing the casino about a promotion. I suppose you could email them and not give away any of your information so I guess that you have no harm in it. However I would suggest talking to someone directly about the promotion and preferably other players if that is possible. Many times the employees hardly understand the promotion or many times at first they don't even know the promotion is going on. They just work there for the paycheck.

About this current promotion. Same deal as the cars or other promotions like it. They have been running this style for some time, changing it up now and again. I know APs who swear that it is based on how big you play or lose. I personally do not believe that. I have lost over 30k in the last few months trying to capitalize on this shoot down jackpot without hitting one this year. I know other APs with very small BR's camping out at the Bubble Dice game hardly putting in any coin. They have the same odds of hitting it as someone like me playing higher stakes. One of them hit the Jackpot at GVR the other day playing the Bubble Dice Machine. One lady at another spot hit it playing Video Reels. Another hit it playing full pay VP and another hit it playing Bad VP. I am pretty sure that it is computer generated and all you have to do is stick in your players card to be eligible. A few weeks ago I hit two spinners since the jackpot just hit about 30 seconds after inserting cards into the machines. I was waiting for the information to register. It takes some time at the Stations for your account to pop up. I was only going to take off the free play of my card and the wife's and maybe play a small amount of time. Anyways the jackpot hit even before I put any money into the machines. I was able to get the wheel spin and I got 50 dollar Slot Play on both cards.

The best way to play this promotion IMHO is to play a high return VP game or Full Pay VP games... play when the jackpot is high... try to partner up with one or two other players so you increase your chances although it really works out the same. Also always play on point days even if the jackpot is low to keep your account up. It shouldn't matter if you hit this jackpot or not it is basically just a free roll.

Now if you were going to team it you could but I don't think it is worth it. A team could play from 2am to 6am and not find much competition but when these jackpots get over 19k or so you find that everyone knows and is hammering but that's not so bad either since the meter moves faster and it will be over soon. Like I say play it by yourself or with a partner or two on the days you would normally play anyway and this is just a nice free roll. If you want to get ambitious you can run around to each spot when the jackpot is 17k or above and play the proper games to get your advantage.
Last edited by: monet0412 on Aug 12, 2017

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