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Is this REASONABLE? Play poker 40 hours a week and get 400.00 in cash?

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November 20th, 2011 at 11:57:16 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: whatme
I think the bigger issue today is this type of promo is simple one would not expect it from a strip casino.


Maybe they reas "Casinology 2." Looks like a way to get lots of unpaid/lowpaid shills.
"The Roman Empire wasn't planned, but neither did it 'just happen.'"
November 20th, 2011 at 12:26:39 PM permalink
zippyboy
Member since: Jan 19, 2011
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The actual promo is stated as thus (directly from the TI poker manager):

"Play 10 hours earn $50
Play 20 hours earn $150
Play 30 hours earn $250
Play 40 hours earn $400

Each additional 10 hour increment earns you another $100."

The TI pokerroom has the disadvantage of being well away from the casino, and is dark much of the time. In fact, it's roped off with a sign at the entrance that says "opens at 10am", but that doesn't mean there's a line of players waiting to get in. Tourists walk over to the room at noon, peek in and see no game, or 3 people sitting there waiting for more players, and then he goes next door to Mirage, which never goes dark. This promo will keep the room open longer at night, earlier in the morning, maybe even all night.

The 40 hours per week is easily attained. Grinders all over town do it already for aces cracked, freeroll qualifiers and other reasons, like Palms recently ended their promo where playing just 8 hours got you a free buffet pass. Others play to avoid being bored at home or in their room upstairs, or to enjoy the air conditioning, or free cookies at IP, or free alcohol. You'd be surprised how many CET Diamond members are just low-stakes grinders who sit there all day and drink coffee and then have a meal in the Diamond Lounge when it opens at 4pm. 40 hours is like any other job, except the grinders can do it at any time of day or night, and on weekends. Plus, it's a sit-down kind of job, with music and good conversation with other grinders they've come to call friends. Even 10 hours gets you back $10, which'll keep the weekend tourists at the table a little longer.
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November 20th, 2011 at 1:39:49 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: zippyboy

The 40 hours per week is easily attained. Grinders all over town do it already for aces cracked, freeroll qualifiers and other reasons, like Palms recently ended their promo where playing just 8 hours got you a free buffet pass. Others play to avoid being bored at home or in their room upstairs, or to enjoy the air conditioning, or free cookies at IP, or free alcohol. You'd be surprised how many CET Diamond members are just low-stakes grinders who sit there all day and drink coffee and then have a meal in the Diamond Lounge when it opens at 4pm. 40 hours is like any other job, except the grinders can do it at any time of day or night, and on weekends. Plus, it's a sit-down kind of job, with music and good conversation with other grinders they've come to call friends. Even 10 hours gets you back $10, which'll keep the weekend tourists at the table a little longer.


Sounds like my dream retirement.
"The Roman Empire wasn't planned, but neither did it 'just happen.'"
November 21st, 2011 at 5:04:27 AM permalink
DJTeddyBear
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If the TI poker room is struggling to stay open or extend hours, I can see this as being a break-even type of thing. I mean if they are now returning most of the rake, but are suddenly earning enough to pay dealers to deal rather than sit there waiting for a game, it sounds like a good thing.

Plus they are at an advangate of having people paid to play, while not being rea prop players that would otherwise need to be pointed out when asked.


Quote: zippyboy
...or free cookies at IP...
The poker room at IP is small, and right at the front door. The cookies are on a counter top on the far side, but there's no StormTroopers keeping non-poker players away from the cookies. At most, a floor person will let you take one or two, but remind you it's for the poker players.

Word to the wise: They're GOOD, fresh-baked cookies.
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November 21st, 2011 at 4:00:58 PM permalink
DrEntropy
Member since: Nov 13, 2009
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Quote: zippyboy
The actual promo is stated as thus (directly from the TI poker manager):
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Also on the TI poker room facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/TIpokerlv
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November 26th, 2011 at 1:07:49 PM permalink
FleaStiff
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Quote: DJTeddyBear
Word to the wise: They're GOOD, fresh-baked cookies.
Yes, I also understand that there is a ten dollar early morning Aces Cracked whereas nearby there is a competing event that charges 20 dollars and doesn't have cookies. So I guess there is competition for this early morning tight-fisted, tight-playing poker crowd of grumpy old men playing for blinds.
I just think it will have to be one heck of a tasty cookie to keep the IP poker room crowd from moving to TI to earn ten bucks an hour doing their same tight game.
November 26th, 2011 at 1:47:33 PM permalink
ncfatcat
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Oh joy! my dream to play ata table of grumpy rocks! <sarcasm> My favorite is the poker room at Resorts in Atlantic City when the bus riding old lady calling stations are playing.
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November 26th, 2011 at 2:53:05 PM permalink
EvenBob
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Essentially they're paying shills to sit at the tables
and sucker tourists into playing. I'm sure they've
crunched the numbers every way possible and
it looks like a feasible plan. Maybe it will catch on.
One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood
November 26th, 2011 at 3:58:04 PM permalink
DJTeddyBear
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Quote: ncfatcat
My favorite is the poker room at Resorts in Atlantic City when the bus riding old lady calling stations are playing.
Hmmm.....

I wasn't aware Resorts HAD a poker room.
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood?
November 26th, 2011 at 4:17:43 PM permalink
FleaStiff
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Just as the individual player hears "You Can't Win If You Don't Play The Game", the casino bean counters hear "You Can't Collect a Rake If The Room Is Dark".
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