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December 13th, 2010 at 10:17:27 AM permalink
Webmaster JB has just put together a Texas Hold 'Em odds calculator. This is a beta version, which I welcome you, my friendly guinea pigs, to try out. If you would like something to compare it to, there is another one at cardplayer.com. If it doesn't work for you then you should get a message at the top about Java. If you get that, please let me know what browser you're version, and whether Java is/isn't enabled.

Thanks in advance for any comments.
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December 13th, 2010 at 2:53:58 PM permalink
Hey,

So far I really like it. Most calculators are very very slow (like the Cardplayer one) but not this one.

Your calculator will probably be quite popular in case the final version is going to be as fast as this one.

By the way, since there's that 'Random' button, a cool feature would be to not to see the percentages rightaway after pressing 'Random'; this would be a good way for the player to analyze random situations and develop some kind of an understanding of which hand is doing well and which isn't.
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December 13th, 2010 at 2:56:26 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Webmaster JB has just put together a Texas Hold 'Em odds calculator. This is a beta version, which I welcome you, my friendly guinea pigs, to try out. If you would like something to compare it to, there is another one at cardplayer.com. If it doesn't work for you then you should get a message at the top about Java. If you get that, please let me know what browser you're version, and whether Java is/isn't enabled.

Thanks in advance for any comments.



This is fun. A few personal preferences:

I'd like it if the random hand generator could popuate hands 2-10, after I put in my two hole cards, since most of my questions have to do with hole cards against the table pre-flop and post-flop.

I would would also like ability to choose the number of opponents to populate randomly, instead of putting in all hands, and backing the extras out.

I would like the ability to choose any of the board cards, and have user selected board card positions populate randomly.
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December 13th, 2010 at 3:14:17 PM permalink
It looks great, works fast and is easy to use. Great job!
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December 13th, 2010 at 4:51:21 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Webmaster JB has just put together a Texas Hold 'Em odds calculator.


Ver' nice. I like the outcome charts you get from hovering over the results boxes.

Quote: Ayecarumba

I'd like it if the random hand generator could popuate hands 2-10, after I put in my two hole cards, since most of my questions have to do with hole cards against the table pre-flop and post-flop.

I would would also like ability to choose the number of opponents to populate randomly, instead of putting in all hands, and backing the extras out.


Like having a drop menu to choose the number of hands to generate going clockwise from the top right, with the remainder being fixed.
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December 13th, 2010 at 6:29:46 PM permalink
I got a java error. My version is newer and active 1.6.0_22
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December 13th, 2010 at 7:56:04 PM permalink
Loads fast, works fast. Love it.

But a feature that I'd like to see added is a method of designating exposed / folded cards.

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At least that was my impression when I tried it on my PC at work.

Here at home, on my Mac, it loads a little slower, and never shows percentages.
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December 14th, 2010 at 9:30:01 PM permalink
Many improvements have been made per the suggestions above, mainly adding folded hands and configuring random situations. Please give it another look.
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December 15th, 2010 at 1:21:21 AM permalink
Wiz, This is pretty cool. But could you add opponent hand ranges, rather than actual hands?
I play a LOT of on-line poker and track how many hands each opponent plays pre flop and how often the raise pre flop.
If they play just 10% of their hands, they are basically playing any pair 8's or higher, Ace-Jack+ offsuit (+ means AJ AQ AK etc)
King-Queen+ offsuit, Ace-Nine+ Suited and King-Ten+ Suited

So if I had pocket 10's vs a player who plays 10% of his hands, I am 47% ish to win.
Vs a player who plays 25% of his hands I am a 56% favourite.

This kind of calculator is priceless.
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December 15th, 2010 at 7:40:34 AM permalink
The above is a good idea, but would be too complicated to program. Maybe in a future version, but don't bet on it.
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December 15th, 2010 at 8:22:32 AM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

Wiz, This is pretty cool. But could you add opponent hand ranges, rather than actual hands?
I play a LOT of on-line poker and track how many hands each opponent plays pre flop and how often the raise pre flop.
If they play just 10% of their hands, they are basically playing any pair 8's or higher, Ace-Jack+ offsuit (+ means AJ AQ AK etc)
King-Queen+ offsuit, Ace-Nine+ Suited and King-Ten+ Suited

So if I had pocket 10's vs a player who plays 10% of his hands, I am 47% ish to win.
Vs a player who plays 25% of his hands I am a 56% favourite.

This kind of calculator is priceless.


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January 27th, 2011 at 6:47:54 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The above is a good idea, but would be too complicated to program. Maybe in a future version, but don't bet on it.



I have a piece of java code that does this calculation for you, I can send you a copy if you like?
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January 27th, 2011 at 6:58:10 AM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

I have a piece of java code that does this calculation for you, I can send you a copy if you like?



Thanks. Before I say yes or no, what specifically does it do?
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February 2nd, 2011 at 9:49:10 PM permalink
Pokerstove is very good for holdem.

Even has a popup where you can select hand ranges visually(Others like pro poker tools you need to know syntax and type in the range).

I use pokerstove for holdem and only go outside pokerstove for other games(PLO and PLO8 specifically).

For those I use propokertools.com(it supports stud games also).

Other important math related software/charts:
http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/icmcalculator.html
This calculator takes blinds, payout structure, and stacksizes and spits out the nash equilibrum(using ICM) for a particular tournament.
Its only useful when you should be playing PUSH/FOLD. I use SNGwiz to do my shoving/calling range calculations as equilibrium is sub-optimal(generally). This calculator helps me error check and make sure none of my ranges are too far off equilibrium. I'm also inclined to stick closely to the equilibrium against other solid players.

I want to try to exploit my opponents, but I can't stray too far from equilibrium in a game with multiple players for fear of being exploitable myself.

http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/hune.html
The bible for HU-SNGs.

If you are looking for software/website that does something specific I may be able to point you in the right direction.
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