A fishy tale from the Bellagio.
So last night I buy into a 1/3 NL cash game.$300 behind. Action is moderate. My 10th hand I get dealt QQ in the small blind. I raise $20 pre flop with 5 players in the hand. All fold except the big blind. Big blind re raises to $120! Mind you that we're heads up now and this player just sat down. I'm surely putting this guy on AA or KK,and assuming he just wants to get it in pre flop. His stack was about $250.I said out loud " It's my birthday,(which it was) I'm feeling lucky, so let's do this and shoved the rest of my stack.The facial expression on his face went sour but he was priced in so he made the call. The board comes Jd 3h 2d 8c 10s. After the river I'm just anticipating to see the bullets. What happens next shocked me. He turns over 7 4 suited-spades! I'm baffled,because not only did he show his cards as if he had me beat but when I show him my queens,he has the nerve to say."why did you call my raise?" The whole table shook their heads in disbelief. I've dealt with crazy bluffs in my time but this was one for the books!
Quote: LoneStarHorseYour story isn't believable because when you're heads up with anyone you both show your cards.... So you would have known what he had before the flop
tournament play only
Quote: LoneStarHorseYour story isn't believable because when you're heads up with anyone you both show your cards.... So you would have known what he had before the flop
Showing hands is only required in tournaments. Cash game players can muck at any time face down, but have to show both to win.
Quote: LoneStarHorseYour story isn't believable because when you're heads up with anyone you both show your cards.... So you would have known what he had before the flop
In tournaments you have to flip your cards when all in. In 98% of casinos when playing a cash game you do not have to flip your hand when all in before the river.
Edit: Damn Aye you beat me to the post button :)
In Atlantic City,Indiana,Ohio,La,Biloxi,Tunica you must turn your cards over
hehe and RS was faster than us both.Quote: PokerGrinder...Edit: Damn Aye you beat me to the post button :)
Bluffing is a big part of the game, but the dumb move was calling your all in. The Bellagio is a no nonsense game. No bad beat jackpot nor high hand rakes. Just poker. Lots of big bankrolls. I enjoyed the story, and hope the OP did well after his nice start.
Quote: LoneStarHorseNot tournament play only sir, not sure where you're playing. But most cash games when you're heads up both players turn their cards over prior to the flop.
In Atlantic City,Indiana,Ohio,La,Biloxi,Tunica you must turn your cards over
This is incorrect, players might choose to turn over cards but like I said 98% of places it is not mandatory. I have played poker in almost every state or province in the states and Canada. Outside of Manitoba and Saskatchewan in Canada I can't off the top of my head think of another place that has a mandatory flip your cards over when all in. Vegas is 100% not mandatory. This is also a standard rule around the world as far as my travels have taken me.
I just finished a week long trip from Harrahs New Orleans to Beau Rivage,Biloxi and while playing a 2/5 cash games when two players are heads up you both had to show your cards. I talked to the Floor Supervisor and he said those are the rules.
Quote: PokerGrinderThis is incorrect, players might choose to turn over cards but like I said 98% of places it is not mandatory. I have played poker in almost every state or province in the states and Canada. Outside of Manitoba and Saskatchewan in Canada I can't off the top of my head think of another place that has a mandatory flip your cards over when all in. Vegas is 100% not mandatory. This is also a standard rule around the world as far as my travels have taken me.
No fishing.... Just Poker.
And then a disagreement over what the rules are generally here and there.
No doubt you can work it out and everyone walks away knowing they were right ...
We needs us a fishy thread, this one isn't it ;-)
I can personally verify a couple of these are incorrect. In cash games you "may" turn your hands over once all in, but places do not require it. Most players hold their cards face down that way they can muck if they lose and not even show.Quote: LoneStarHorseNot tournament play only sir, not sure where you're playing. But most cash games when you're heads up both players turn their cards over prior to the flop.
In Atlantic City,Indiana,Ohio,La,Biloxi,Tunica you must turn your cards over
Quote: RomesI can personally verify a couple of these are incorrect. In cash games you "may" turn your hands over once all in, but places do not require it. Most players hold their cards face down that way they can muck if they lose and not even show.
I tried to say that as I have played in most of those places. Floor supervisors quite often in random casinos can be quite oblivious to the proper rules. Outside of Vegas the poker bosses are hit or miss.
Quote: LoneStarHorseNot tournament play only sir, not sure where you're playing. But most cash games when you're heads up both players turn their cards over prior to the flop.
In Atlantic City,Indiana,Ohio,La,Biloxi,Tunica you must turn your cards over
That's not "most" places.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLI tuned into 'a fishy tale'.
No fishing.... Just Poker.
And then a disagreement over what the rules are generally here and there.
No doubt you can work it out and everyone walks away knowing they were right ...
We needs us a fishy thread, this one isn't it ;-)
Maybe I should rename the title "a donkey tale"
Quote: TwoFeathersATL
We needs us a fishy thread, this one isn't it ;-)
You're welcome to come play at DT
I hear they play too nice over there.Quote: FaceYou're welcome to come play at DT
Do you have any idea whatsoever how hard it is for me to keep my stories/lies congruent just on these forums ;-?Quote: FaceYou're welcome to come play at DT
Prolly best for DT, and for me, not to dig a bigger hole over at DT.
'twas a nice invite though... Just the Feathered One.....
Quote: andysifI assure you if this happens in Pokerstars he would have flopped trip 4's
No....Quads!
Quote: LoneStarHorseIn Atlantic City,Indiana,Ohio,La,Biloxi,Tunica you must turn your cards over
Not true in Atlantic City, or at least not typically true in Atlantic City. I haven't been to every single place. I guess there may be exceptions or possibly dealers or floors who don't handle this correctly.
This thread should be renamed "Is it mandatory to show cards in a cash game?" :)
Quote: TwoFeathersATLI tuned into 'a fishy tale'.
No fishing.... Just Poker.
And then a disagreement over what the rules are generally here and there.
No doubt you can work it out and everyone walks away knowing they were right ...
We needs us a fishy thread, this one isn't it ;-)
It can be referred to as a "fishy" tale.
Fish. Noun. An inexperienced or unskilled player, especially such a player who loses significant amounts of money; live one.
This can describe the person in the original poster's story who went all in preflop with 7-4 suited.
After all, OP did say a pro player once said, "The Bellagio poker room is like shooting fish in a barrel."
Quote: andysifI assure you if this happens in Pokerstars he would have flopped trip 4's
Nah, some would have said if he flopped 5s 6s 8s!
