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Wizard
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August 15th, 2011 at 7:55:22 AM permalink
High Card Flush is a new game on trial at Harrah's Laughlin. Please have a look at my new page on High Card Flush. I welcome all corrections and comments.
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August 15th, 2011 at 8:05:07 AM permalink
In the intro you may want to just say the game was introduced in the Summer of 2011, rather than guess at a specific month.
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August 15th, 2011 at 8:15:41 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

High Card Flush is a new game on trial at Harrah's Laughlin. Please have a look at my new page on High Card Flush. I welcome all corrections and comments.



You might want to point out the obvious (which I may have missed) that under the Mosseau strategy, a layer should always make the biggest call bet they can. Unless that's not true (I can't think why it wouldn't be).
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August 15th, 2011 at 10:23:36 AM permalink
If I am reading the bonus table correctly, it is unusual, in that it has the possibility of a push (8-high 3 card, or two card max flushes). You may want to point out this feature.

As for the unknown optimal strategy's "gray area", what would the effect be of splitting the difference (edit: above or below 10-9-3, which is the middle of the 61 "gray" hands)? Is it linear between the two ends, or exponential?

Is there any bonus for five, six or seven card straight flushes?
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August 15th, 2011 at 11:00:21 AM permalink
The bonus paytable momentarily confused me. If "Event" were changed to "Best Flush" it would have made more sense.

After all, the way it is, it seems like if the 7 cards is made up of a 4 card flush plus a 3 card 9 high flush, that they would cancel each other out for a push. This is somewhat confirmed by the 2 card push. If the 7 cards is made up of a 4 or 5 card flush and a 2 card flush, well, the 2 card pushes, so the 4 or 5 card payout remains correct. Then if the 7 cards is made up of a 4 card flush and a 3 card 8 high, does it pay both? I know it doesn't but some yokel will think otherwise.

Also, the 3 card 8 high and 2 card flushes should say "push" next to, or instead of, the 0 in the pay column.
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August 15th, 2011 at 11:54:13 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

The bonus paytable momentarily confused me. If "Event" were changed to "Best Flush" it would have made more sense.

After all, the way it is, it seems like if the 7 cards is made up of a 4 card flush plus a 3 card 9 high flush, that they would cancel each other out for a push. This is somewhat confirmed by the 2 card push. If the 7 cards is made up of a 4 or 5 card flush and a 2 card flush, well, the 2 card pushes, so the 4 or 5 card payout remains correct. Then if the 7 cards is made up of a 4 card flush and a 3 card 8 high, does it pay both? I know it doesn't but some yokel will think otherwise.

Also, the 3 card 8 high and 2 card flushes should say "push" next to, or instead of, the 0 in the pay column.



The verbiage mentions "maximum" to indicate the highest possible flush out of the player's seven cards. Note that any four card flush (even the lowly 2-3-4-5) will trump any three card flush (including Q-K-A).
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August 15th, 2011 at 1:59:26 PM permalink
Thanks for the comments so far. I just made a round of changes to reflect your suggestions. Keep 'em coming.
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August 15th, 2011 at 3:01:46 PM permalink
Reminds me of a game, 7 card thrill, where you and the dealer draw 7 cards to make the best hand (be it a flush or otherwise).
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Multiple bet sequence might help.
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August 15th, 2011 at 3:27:12 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

If I am reading the bonus table correctly, it is unusual, in that it has the possibility of a push (8-high 3 card, or two card max flushes). You may want to point out this feature.


Pushes refer to hand copies, same hand value. Pushes would be rare, similar to a hand copy when playing three-card poker: K-7-4 versus K-7-4, etc.

Quote: Ayecarumba

As for the unknown optimal strategy's "gray area", what would the effect be of splitting the difference (edit: above or below 10-9-3, which is the middle of the 61 "gray" hands)? Is it linear between the two ends, or exponential?


The excellent Charles R. Mousseau indicates to play a three card flush of 10-8-6 and better, else fold. Like Shackleford's three card advice: play Q-6-4 or better, and run with that strategy.

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Is there any bonus for five, six or seven card straight flushes?


You can raise higher on a strong hand: 2x or a five-card flush, and 3x for a 6 or 7 card flush.
Side Bonus bet is flushed based.
The game might be a little frustrating without a "regular poker" bonus bet:
1. You get a four of a kind on a weak flush hand.
2. You get a full house on a hand you should fold flush-wise.
Bonus bet plays only on flush type hands.
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August 15th, 2011 at 3:42:58 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

As for the unknown optimal strategy's "gray area", what would the effect be of splitting the difference (edit: above or below 10-9-3, which is the middle of the 61 "gray" hands)?



I would split it at 10-8-6, the worst calling hand per the Mousseau strategy, instead. The reason this isn't optimal is the cards that are not in the highest flush are cards the dealer can't get, affecting the dealer's odds.

The game owner agrees that the side bet is not volatile enough, and plans to change the pay table.
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