eSports at Downtown Grand
Can others wager on the outcome of these tournaments?
Quote: AyecarumbaI note that the Downtown Grand has a dedicated area for eSports, which in this context means an area where video game players can compete. It has monitors, game systems, cpu's and chairs in a dedicated space. There was a schedule of upcoming tournaments that included Madden NFL football and Call of Duty.
They should market this as teenager daycare :)
Quote: AyecarumbaCan others wager on the outcome of these tournaments?
That depends on whether or not you have enough lunch money left :)
Quote: AyecarumbaCan others wager on the outcome of these tournaments?
There is more bet more on these tournaments than on golf tournaments: http://www.wallstreet-online.de/nachricht/7250369-pinnacle-sports-bookmaker-accepts-one-millionth-esports-bet
Quote: TomGThere is more bet more on these tournaments than on golf tournaments: http://www.wallstreet-online.de/nachricht/7250369-pinnacle-sports-bookmaker-accepts-one-millionth-esports-bet
I don't know how much winners in golf tournaments get....but the largest prize pool in an eSports tournament was Dota 2's The International (2016) with a $20 million prize pool.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_(Dota_2)#2016
and
http://www.esportsearnings.com/tournaments
Quote: RSI don't know how much winners in golf tournaments get....but the largest prize pool in an eSports tournament was Dota 2's The International (2016) with a $20 million prize pool.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_(Dota_2)#2016
and
http://www.esportsearnings.com/tournaments
The PGA tour gives anywhere from $1M to $1.5M to the winner every week for over 10 months of the year. All major champions won $1.8M this year.
125th on the money list on the PGA Tour last year won $747,899. This position is notable because that is the lowest position on the money list that automatically qualifies for the tour the next season.
Quote: TomGGold Strike in Jean has 1990s era arcade games downstairs where you don't even have to put in quarters. Just hit start and you can play.
OMG this is good info.
Agreed, I love arcades as I was always a gamer growing up.Quote: djatcOMG this is good info.
So if the Downtown Grand has Halo (any of them), I think I'll skip gambling and just play this on my next trip...
With that said, I love sports gambling, but I wouldn't touch esports except for maybe finals matches, even if I was 100% sure to get paid. At least in DOTA, there are one or two discoveries per year of match fixing, with presumably many more occurring. In fact, one of the most infamous memes, is "322" because a Russian player named Solo basically derailed his career for a couple of years because he was caught throwing (intentionally losing) a game for $322 profit. Peru, Philippines, Russia, a lot of these players come from places where scamming for a few hundred is a lot of money.
It occurs to me you were asking about their in house tournaments. Nonetheless, it's already been typed out on my phone.
Quote: ahiromuYou can wager on esports tournaments. There have been two forms. One is pure cash, these transactions are rare and have less oversight than traditional online casinos (exaggeration). The other, which has recently been shut down by Valve, was wagering in game cosmetics that are worth a few bucks to hundreds each.
With that said, I love sports gambling, but I wouldn't touch esports except for maybe finals matches, even if I was 100% sure to get paid. At least in DOTA, there are one or two discoveries per year of match fixing, with presumably many more occurring. In fact, one of the most infamous memes, is "322" because a Russian player named Solo basically derailed his career for a couple of years because he was caught throwing (intentionally losing) a game for $322 profit. Peru, Philippines, Russia, a lot of these players come from places where scamming for a few hundred is a lot of money.
It occurs to me you were asking about their in house tournaments. Nonetheless, it's already been typed out on my phone.
Thanks for the helpful info. I thought it curious that they would basically chop up what would be a nice VIP table/slot area to put in monitors and CPU's. I don't know how the use justifies the cost, but it was empty when I walked past at about 11 am on a Saturday. There was a poster advertising upcoming tournaments though. Perhaps it is like poker, where the goal is to attract players to the casino in hopes they will gamble while waiting.
I was wondering about this and talking about it with someone that plays a few of them game's (I have no clue if you could tell someone was throwing one of them games or not )Quote: ahiromuYou can wager on esports tournaments. There have been two forms. One is pure cash, these transactions are rare and have less oversight than traditional online casinos (exaggeration). The other, which has recently been shut down by Valve, was wagering in game cosmetics that are worth a few bucks to hundreds each.
With that said, I love sports gambling, but I wouldn't touch esports except for maybe finals matches, even if I was 100% sure to get paid. At least in DOTA, there are one or two discoveries per year of match fixing, with presumably many more occurring. In fact, one of the most infamous memes, is "322" because a Russian player named Solo basically derailed his career for a couple of years because he was caught throwing (intentionally losing) a game for $322 profit. Peru, Philippines, Russia, a lot of these players come from places where scamming for a few hundred is a lot of money.
It occurs to me you were asking about their in house tournaments. Nonetheless, it's already been typed out on my phone.
I would assume it would be very easy to pay off someone.
I personally love it though, as a former top tiered gamer I hope they have side 1v1's/etc... Could easily make some money on that.
Quote: AyecarumbaI note that the Downtown Grand has a dedicated area for eSports, which in this context means an area where video game players can compete. It has monitors, game systems, cpu's and chairs in a dedicated space. There was a schedule of upcoming tournaments that included Madden NFL football and Call of Duty.
Can others wager on the outcome of these tournaments?
In a Vegas sportsbook? It depends on the definition of "athletic sports event" and whether or not the competitors are considered "amateurs" (although considering that there is prize money, I would consider them professionals). If eSports are "athletic sports events," then, going by a strict reading of the regulations, sportsbooks should be able to take bets on them; otherwise, it requires approval of the Gaming Commissioner.
Quote: AyecarumbaI don't know how the use justifies the cost, but it was empty when I walked past at about 11 am on a Saturday. There was a poster advertising upcoming tournaments though. Perhaps it is like poker, where the goal is to attract players to the casino in hopes they will gamble while waiting.
I agree on the cost/benefit, I bet it is just to get people inside. Grasping at straws, it sounds like a LAN cafe to me... I could see one surviving on the strip as "teenager day care" but not at the Grand.
Quote: AxelWolfI was wondering about this and talking about it with someone that plays a few of them game's (I have no clue if you could tell someone was throwing one of them games or not )
I would assume it would be very easy to pay off someone.
It's somewhat tolerated, in that as long as you fess up after accused by Valve themselves, people tend to get at least one pass (nobody has been accused/"convicted" twice). I can't think of one in a big game since the majority of players earn a significant portion of their income from tournament wins. The betting scene isn't as established, so not many people are capable of offering a player 50-100k to throw a big game (when winning that game and getting invited to the next big tournament is on the line).
Most Valve games are the same (Dota & CS:Go). The other big one is LOL, whose player compensation comes in the form of relatively high salaries and a much larger streaming population. Google can tell you how much these guys are making, especially the Koreans.
Quote: ahiromuIt's somewhat tolerated, in that as long as you fess up after accused by Valve themselves, people tend to get at least one pass (nobody has been accused/"convicted" twice). I can't think of one in a big game since the majority of players earn a significant portion of their income from tournament wins. The betting scene isn't as established, so not many people are capable of offering a player 50-100k to throw a big game (when winning that game and getting invited to the next big tournament is on the line).
Most Valve games are the same (Dota & CS:Go). The other big one is LOL, whose player compensation comes in the form of relatively high salaries and a much larger streaming population. Google can tell you how much these guys are making, especially the Koreans.
The world of "games of skill" is very interesting to me, in that it has been touted as the next frontier of gambling. Are these foreign professional players and their followers 21 years of age or older? It would be dumb, and possibly illegal, for a casino to dedicate gaming floorspace for activities only teens participate in. Unless betting is allowed on the outcomes by third parties, I don't see how it grows in the current format, even with multimillion dollar prize pools (which I assume are parimutual).
Or course the same was probably said of Beer Pong, and O'Shea's is still around because of it.
Dota and CS:GO tend toward an older audience, but a large portion of the player base is underage. These websites had no real age check and were tolerated for years. It's the equivalent of betting/getting paid gold on pachinko... you're not really gambling. The benefit of these games were that they were legit. Similar to horse racing, the odds were dynamic and the money was just redistributed (if they took a cut it was negligible).
I have no idea what they're going for. Looks like they hosted some fighting games tournament in July. What's the point of this?
Looks like we will just have to get one of our former world gaming champion involved, we can probably get him to take a dive and sell out cheap (-;Quote: AyecarumbaThe world of "games of skill" is very interesting to me, in that it has been touted as the next frontier of gambling. Are these foreign professional players and their followers 21 years of age or older? It would be dumb, and possibly illegal, for a casino to dedicate gaming floorspace for activities only teens participate in. Unless betting is allowed on the outcomes by third parties, I don't see how it grows in the current format, even with multimillion dollar prize pools (which I assume are parimutual).
Or course the same was probably said of Beer Pong, and O'Shea's is still around because of it.
Quote: TomGGold Strike in Jean has 1990s era arcade games downstairs where you don't even have to put in quarters. Just hit start and you can play.
Wow, I had no idea they were free and I am there a lot.
On Call of Duty there is a supply drop system, which you can earn new skins and new weapons in 2 ways: saving points from playing games, or buying COD points to purchase the drops. It's really stupid since it's 0% EV since you can't resell them or trade them. On CS:GO I think you can resell them for a good amount if you have rares and whatnot.
I think we should sponsor Face to get us a piece of the $250,000 first prize...
I don't have confidence in the success of this project due to the location. The bums will scare the kids away.
This years Streetfighter 5 world championship
The winner took home a check for 230k
Watched it on ESPN
That aint chump change
Quote: TigerWuThe 2018 League of Legends World Finals had almost 100 million viewers. That's Super Bowl type numbers. Esports is expected to generate $1 billion in revenue this year. Even the U.S. Army now has its own professional esports team comprised of active duty soldiers. This stuff is huge.
A spambot necrod a 2 year old thread. Let it go.
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Quote: AyecarumbaI note that the Downtown Grand has a dedicated area for Illinois News, which in this context means an area where video game players can compete. It has monitors, game systems, cpu's and chairs in a dedicated space. There was a schedule of upcoming tournaments that included Madden NFL football and Call of Duty.
Can others wager on the outcome of these tournaments?
Thanks fo this topic, I think Yes!
I heard ploppies can play and they have a Saturday nite Mario Kart competition
I generally suck but love to play and I'm pretty decent at Mario kart
Looking forward to the latest video game coming out
Cyberpunk 2077
Out tomorrow
I'll probably buy it
