Konstantin
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October 23rd, 2011 at 3:54:13 PM permalink
Before today's NFL games, Bodog has this as one of their NFL proposition bets.

Quote:


(DEN vs MIA) Will Tim Tebow (DEN) score a TD in the game?

Yes - 110
No - 120



Now, many people at another forum I frequent noticed this bet, and the odds are extremely good on the 'yes' side, to the point where a lot of people put serious money on it. As we all know, Tebow threw for 2 TDs, and in my view, that means that the 'yes' bet should win. However, Bodog had the bet resolve as the 'Yes' bet losing. When support was E-mailed, the response was "Let us kindly inform you that your wager with Reference Number a bloo bloo bloo, was settled correctly as a 'Loss' because Tim Tebow did not score a touchdown.".

Apparently they are interpreting the term "score" to not include passing touchdowns, which is disingenuous at best. If they intended the bet to only be for rushing touchdowns, they could have easily said so. Virtually anyone reading the text of the prop bet would assume that any touchdown, passing or rushing, would satisfy the bet. It is a pity that Bodog has resorted to such underhanded tactics.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 4:05:45 PM permalink
FWIW I take it to mean "score a touchdown" as either running into the end zone with the ball, catching the ball in the end zone, or recovering the ball there.

It's true a QB, usually, passes the ball that gets caught in the end zone, but that is referred to as "passing for a touchdown," rather than as "scoring a touchdown."

That's just me, you understand. Others may have a different interpretation. An online book should either make it plain or have a glossary readily available.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 4:11:30 PM permalink
I'll go with Nareed on this one. I feel that only one person scores each touchdown, even if another player does something that helps considerably. If the QB runs for a TD, there were probably numerous blockers who really made the touchdown happen. And the center probably handled the ball on the play, too. Throwing for a TD is a nice stat, similar to completions, but it is the receiver for whom the ref raises his hands. Would you give the QB credit for "handing off for a touchdown"?
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October 23rd, 2011 at 4:18:12 PM permalink
When I read the bet, I assumed it meant he would run for a touchdown.

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October 23rd, 2011 at 4:46:40 PM permalink
I normally don't bet this kind of prop, but I'm quite sure Bodog scored it how they would in Vegas. In the case of a passing TD, the one getting credit is the catcher, not the passer. For a QB to get credit for a TD he would pretty much have to run the ball into the end zone.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 5:34:26 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I normally don't bet this kind of prop, but I'm quite sure Bodog scored it how they would in Vegas. In the case of a passing TD, the one getting credit is the catcher, not the passer. For a QB to get credit for a TD he would pretty much have to run the ball into the end zone.



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October 23rd, 2011 at 6:01:22 PM permalink
Sorry, Konstantin. This is not a close one. There is no football fan who would think that the quarterback who threw a touchdown pass 'scored' a touchdown. As proof that the bet is a loss, you do know there is often a 'prop' bet as to who scores the first touchdown during the super bowl. There is NEVER a choice for a 'tie' between thw quarterback who threw it and the receiver who caught it.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 7:15:13 PM permalink
Here's an article talking about that very issue:

Super Bowl first-to-score-TD prop bets.

Among the quotes from that article:
"Green Bay QB Aaron Rodgers, who scored the first TD vs. Chicago in the NFC Championship Game last Sunday on a called bootleg, is getting +600 at Bookmaker, +900 at BetUS and 14/1 at Bodog."

Clearly the sportsbooks mean "a player gets into the end zone with the football" when they say "score a TD". Unfortunately this is on the punter for not understanding the rules before putting down the wager.
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