zuti6
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November 19th, 2015 at 9:46:37 AM permalink
So ,on average , it seems that the best online deposit bonus terms nowdays are something like this :
x $ 40x wagering req. on Slots .

Percentage play-through by game:
50% for Classic Blackjack.(sometimes vp)
10% for Other Blackjack and Video Poker.

So probably best option for players is to go ahead and do 80x wagering req on classic blackjack? Anyone disagree?

Also ,is anyone that wants some edge crazy enough to go ahead and do the deposit bonus using Slots?



Btw this conclusions were made by looking at wizardofodds approved casinos and noticing this kind of a trend .Maybe im wrong though.
Also Btw signing up through wizards links seems like a good deal for the extra protection.
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November 19th, 2015 at 12:00:22 PM permalink
It depends on the specific numbers and games, but Classic BJ would usually be the way to go with the example numbers you gave.

Signing up through one of our links is highly recommended. The Wizard guarantee, I would say, carries even more clout with LCB as our parent company.

I've also analyzed several bonuses in recent months, so you can go through those by checking out the Articles section. For the older ones, I strongly recommend making sure the Terms and Bonuses themselves are still the same as when I wrote the Article.

If you have a specific one you are interested in, and there is NOT an Article or the Terms have changed, let me know. I should write one more such Article this month, anyway.

If you have questions about any I have written about, please use the Comments section below the applicable Article.
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zuti6
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November 20th, 2015 at 7:02:50 AM permalink
I just got an offer .If i deposit 100$ then theyll add 200$ so ill have 300$ . thing is I need to wager it 100 times -300$ x 100. The good thing is blackjack counts as 100% for requirements. All forms of it and there are many . Guys,is this worth doing or is 100x too much?
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November 20th, 2015 at 12:36:24 PM permalink
Quote: zuti6

I just got an offer .If i deposit 100$ then theyll add 200$ so ill have 300$ . thing is I need to wager it 100 times -300$ x 100. The good thing is blackjack counts as 100% for requirements. All forms of it and there are many . Guys,is this worth doing or is 100x too much?



What are the Rules of the BJ game?

Is it a Phantom Bonus?
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zuti6
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November 20th, 2015 at 1:36:57 PM permalink
I can play any BJ game . One example is microgaming atlantic city blackjack with (as per wizardofodds) has 99.65% rtp.
As for question if its a phantom bonus I have no idea. All it says is:

Deposit 30$ or more for your 200% up to $200 bonus for all games!
The rollover requirement for bonus is 100 times the deposit and bonus amount
The stake contribution for Blackjack for the bonus is 100%. (slots are 100% ,vp is 10% etc .)

Btw this is a blackjack special promotion and thats why its 100% blackjack allowed.
This doesnt seem like its a phantom bonus ,right? Seems more like match bonus. (is this called cashable?)
Its a "if you deposit 100$ you receive 200$ as a bonus ".
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November 20th, 2015 at 2:58:51 PM permalink
Right, I need to ensure it is cashable.
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November 20th, 2015 at 3:58:45 PM permalink
Quote: zuti6

I can play any BJ game . One example is microgaming atlantic city blackjack with (as per wizardofodds) has 99.65% rtp.
As for question if its a phantom bonus I have no idea. All it says is:

Deposit 30$ or more for your 200% up to $200 bonus for all games!
The rollover requirement for bonus is 100 times the deposit and bonus amount
The stake contribution for Blackjack for the bonus is 100%. (slots are 100% ,vp is 10% etc .)

Btw this is a blackjack special promotion and thats why its 100% blackjack allowed.
This doesnt seem like its a phantom bonus ,right? Seems more like match bonus. (is this called cashable?)
Its a "if you deposit 100$ you receive 200$ as a bonus ".

I have done 10x better on good slot bonuses. Rarely have I been able to finish WR on BJ even at 40x.


What casino? They probably give back .1 but then there might be deposit and cash out fees. approx $100 in EV

What is your average bet going to be? How many hands per hour can you play?

30k in action betting small while playing perfectly will take a while, After all is said and done you'll be making $6 an hr betting $5 a hand, I'm fairly certain you will go bust before you finish the WR.

IMO you should seek lower WR.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
zuti6
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November 21st, 2015 at 12:50:06 AM permalink
Thanks . Yeah ,100 seems too much to me too. Also it seems they have a bet max at 5$ while bonus is active. Im pretty sure I can withdraw all of it though. So that would be needed to play 5000 hands or something.
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November 21st, 2015 at 1:25:45 AM permalink
Quote: zuti6

Thanks . Yeah ,100 seems too much to me too. Also it seems they have a bet max at 5$ while bonus is active. Im pretty sure I can withdraw all of it though. So that would be needed to play 5000 hands or something.

Did you try winaday? it's free $50 then 100% $100 10x WR.

IMO it's gaffed, but @ 10x WR and small VP denominations you should profit, also they send free stuff often and they have many bonuses. Probably $500 in EV non gaff EV. even with gaffing shouldn't be hard to come away with $250. using the first 10 bonuses.

I actually turned a free bonus into a few thousand betting small with no big hits.

It's been a long while since I played it.

I usually do stuff like that when I'm traveling or doing something boring.

Got a check within a week.

Bovada 50% sports bonus is a good deal. $500 gets an extra $250 Follow Mikes SB prop bets if they have them. Then you have +EV on top of +EV. How awesome is that?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
zuti6
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November 21st, 2015 at 1:31:35 AM permalink
Gaffed means rigged?
Ill check it out.

Considering the deal i discussed could it be good idea to go play VP and try for royal and then go for clearing it with Bj? I think that might be good . Deal is on 10Bet casino btw.Thats reputable ,right?
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November 21st, 2015 at 1:58:50 AM permalink
IMO YES Rigged.

I don't like BJ online. Rarely have I been able to complete WR unless WR were 12x or less, playing $1-$4.

My results playing green or bigger online are absolutely horrible and almost predictable losses once I up my bets. 1-4 PWLPWWLLPWLLWLWWPPLWLLLWLLWPLPLLW . Bet Green to black LLLLLLLLLLLPLLPLPLLLWLLLLLLLL

In early 2000 one of my biggest personal 1 day loss on anything was online at Winward casino lost many thousands I earned in VP profits.Played $250 a hand with a slight BJ "advantage".

Anybody I personally know have all had similar results.

I stay with 9/6 or something like that.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
zuti6
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November 21st, 2015 at 4:03:04 AM permalink
What about wagering on BJ but on live dealer (not sure if casinos allow that as part of bonus) ? Casino edge is 0.4-0.6 . If we are worried about rigged that surely isnt,no?

"I stay with 9/6 or something like that."
If im getting it right Axel you saying 9/6 jacks isnt rigged on that site but you suspect Bj and slots are? I have heard of video poker being rigged at some sites no matter what payouts say but i guess that would be too easy to check and get bad reviews.
zuti6
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November 21st, 2015 at 10:46:13 AM permalink
I just read on wizards review of the winaday that jacks are rigged too . At least concerning royal flush chance.
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