bumblingfool
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April 1st, 2014 at 6:48:02 PM permalink
Speaking specifically of the single digit bet.

1. Record starting balance, bet size, number of bets, end balance.

2. Record each number picked and number spun.

1st option is much easier of course but would it be enough for an assessment? Would appreciate some help from the math experts :)
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April 1st, 2014 at 6:59:24 PM permalink
Quote: bumblingfool

Speaking specifically of the single digit bet.

1. Record starting balance, bet size, number of bets, end balance.

2. Record each number picked and number spun.

1st option is much easier of course but would it be enough for an assessment? Would appreciate some help from the math experts :)

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teliot
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April 1st, 2014 at 8:51:00 PM permalink
Quote: bumblingfool

Speaking specifically of the single digit bet.

1. Record starting balance, bet size, number of bets, end balance.

2. Record each number picked and number spun.

1st option is much easier of course but would it be enough for an assessment? Would appreciate some help from the math experts :)

The test for bias I suggest is table minimum on both red and black, and count the number of 0/00 that come up. Compute the z-Score. You can find out pretty quickly. A reliable result (if it's biased away from your bets) can take just a few spins.
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April 1st, 2014 at 8:51:28 PM permalink
Quote: bumblingfool

Speaking specifically of the single digit bet.

1. Record starting balance, bet size, number of bets, end balance.

2. Record each number picked and number spun.

1st option is much easier of course but would it be enough for an assessment? Would appreciate some help from the math experts :)

#1 would probably end up costing more than #2 to get conclusive results. #2 is the way to go. Record every bet and record every spin result. Don't vary the amount of the bet.

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The best way to analyse online roulette for fairness is with someone elses money.

:), always makes it better.
bumblingfool
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April 4th, 2014 at 8:40:14 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

The test for bias I suggest is table minimum on both red and black, and count the number of 0/00 that come up. Compute the z-Score. You can find out pretty quickly. A reliable result (if it's biased away from your bets) can take just a few spins.



Do you think a dodgy software could activate the cheat only when the player is betting a certain amount and/or when the bets are placed on single digits or am I just being paranoid?
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April 4th, 2014 at 8:41:40 PM permalink
Quote: endermike

#1 would probably end up costing more than #2 to get conclusive results. #2 is the way to go. Record every bet and record every spin result. Don't vary the amount of the bet.

:), always makes it better.



How many spins do you think it would take to get conclusive results?
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