onenickelmiracle
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December 25th, 2016 at 5:10:12 PM permalink
Winning so much though might be noticeable. Doesn't matter if they can't see the bets if they can see a stack taking over the table. If that was the angle, you'd think they'd rat hole in their coat pocket.
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MathExtremist
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December 25th, 2016 at 5:43:14 PM permalink
Here's what I really don't understand. Nobody has stacks of purple on the table from betting red/green, it just doesn't happen. A "stack" of purple is 20 x 500 = $10,000. If I did the math right, he had a +$23 EV/hand, so he's only expected to win $914/hour. (Only, heh.) But misdealing notwithstanding, nothing changes about the card probabilities and you only have a 1/4 chance (per hour) of hitting anything bigger than trips and therefore of winning more than $500 at any one time. So at $914/hour, it's still hours of play to get to stacks of purple. What were the bosses thinking as he slowly and continually took their money? How does a casino let something like that go on for longer than four hours, for example?
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Ibeatyouraces
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December 25th, 2016 at 5:56:53 PM permalink
One of our teammates got quads twice within 20 minutes. Both with made pocket pairs (6's or better). $h!t happens.
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December 25th, 2016 at 6:18:42 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

Here's what I really don't understand. Nobody has stacks of purple on the table from betting red/green, it just doesn't happen. A "stack" of purple is 20 x 500 = $10,000. If I did the math right, he had a +$23 EV/hand, so he's only expected to win $914/hour. (Only, heh.) But misdealing notwithstanding, nothing changes about the card probabilities and you only have a 1/4 chance (per hour) of hitting anything bigger than trips and therefore of winning more than $500 at any one time. So at $914/hour, it's still hours of play to get to stacks of purple. What were the bosses thinking as he slowly and continually took their money? How does a casino let something like that go on for longer than four hours, for example?


That's what I was thinking also, so it seems likely that he hit some big hands.
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December 25th, 2016 at 7:21:35 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

Here's what I really don't understand. Nobody has stacks of purple on the table from betting red/green, it just doesn't happen. A "stack" of purple is 20 x 500 = $10,000. If I did the math right, he had a +$23 EV/hand, so he's only expected to win $914/hour. (Only, heh.) But misdealing notwithstanding, nothing changes about the card probabilities and you only have a 1/4 chance (per hour) of hitting anything bigger than trips and therefore of winning more than $500 at any one time. So at $914/hour, it's still hours of play to get to stacks of purple. What were the bosses thinking as he slowly and continually took their money? How does a casino let something like that go on for longer than four hours, for example?



I figured the game pays odds on winning hands, and he may have hit a few. He could also be coloring up as he goes.
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December 25th, 2016 at 11:04:42 PM permalink
Heck, what's to stop him from one red, three green, assuming a $100 table.
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December 25th, 2016 at 11:34:38 PM permalink
Seems like part of it would be 3x vs 1/3x...would definitely help if it was a $10 min.
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December 26th, 2016 at 3:40:40 AM permalink
Unless I'm missing something (wouldn't be the first time), this guy had two advantages:

1) he was allowed to bet less than his ante

2) he was allowed to past-post:

Quote:

he makes his hand on 5th street and proceeds to bet $90


Normally the final bet must be placed before the last community card is revealed. As described, the final bet came after the last community card was revealed.

Surely the past-posting provided the bigger advantage.
Last edited by: unnamed administrator on Dec 26, 2016
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December 26th, 2016 at 5:04:21 AM permalink
Quote: JB

Surely the past-posting provided the bigger advantage.



I missed that. I'm not sure the OP meant to indicate past-posting as it's not emphasized.
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December 26th, 2016 at 5:30:39 AM permalink
I didn't read what he said as past posting either, just that he made his hand on the last bet (before the river was exposed). Normal to the game. I could be wrong.
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