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December 20th, 2016 at 3:16:53 PM permalink
In the December 15, 2016 show, Bob said "Would it likely be easier for a wealthy Chinaman..." at around "32:45".

Just to state the obvious. I'm a Chinese American and I found it odd/uncomfortable to hear this term in a public radio show. Do you guys use this term in your daily conversation? If so, do you know the history behind it?
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IndyJeffrey
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December 20th, 2016 at 3:47:09 PM permalink
It was probably used more 40 years ago. I don't know Bob, but I don't believe he meant it in any derogatory way. It could be seen as insensitive or inappropriate in 2016, for certain.
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December 20th, 2016 at 5:00:21 PM permalink
It's a changing world; used to be OK to call an ethnic Chinese an "oriental," but not any more.
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December 20th, 2016 at 5:21:36 PM permalink
I'm Irish and have no problem with someone calling me a whatever Irishman.
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December 20th, 2016 at 5:21:52 PM permalink
I'm Chinese American , born in Taiwan and raised in the USA
I'm ok with Chinaman or Oriental
I don't use these terms
I use Chinese or Vietnamese or Korean ect
Or I use Asian
I'm also ok with Charlie Chan movies
Watched them growing up
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December 20th, 2016 at 6:24:59 PM permalink
I never stopped using Chinaman. There are
restaurants, like this one in FL, that have
Chinaman as their name. How bad can it
be.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chinaman-World-Famous-Cheeseburger-and-Fries/558710500906727
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onenickelmiracle
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December 20th, 2016 at 7:52:37 PM permalink
Nope, not Chinaman or Oriental. Some people just can't use a new term no matter what you recommend. My sister says colored and oriental, that's all she can remember. The only place I ever remembered hearing Chinaman was The Big Lebowski. Seriously though Chinaman is so not offensive, at least in my mind, can't see a negative connotation, it's nothing even close to Chink, a word never to be used in front of Asians. Maybe Jap is off limits, not sure, but I wouldn't say that either. They can all be used innocently by some people who just dont mean to offend.
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December 21st, 2016 at 12:17:07 AM permalink
Back when "Bonanza" was on: I considered Hop-Sing to be a "Chinaman."
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December 21st, 2016 at 4:14:56 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Nope, not Chinaman or Oriental. .


I just don't get what is offensive with the term Oriental
It doesn't bother me or my mother who is full blooded Chinese.
I am a fan of history
I remember the orient express. I or my mother was never offended by the name on the train.

What does bothers me is a private message from EB today on this site full of hate for me on this subject
I was really taken aback by the PM
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Last edited by: terapined on Dec 21, 2016
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December 21st, 2016 at 4:49:16 AM permalink
Ok I am confused. Why is Chinaman offensive if the person you are describing IS from China? Obviously if you were to call a Korean person a Chinaman, then that could be taken offensively.
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