ewjones080
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May 6th, 2012 at 3:26:03 PM permalink
This past Friday night there was a guy that came in playing craps around 1 am. You could tell he was new, and he said he had only played a few times. He was telling me about his friend that was playing in a casino near St. Louis, where the field had more numbers in it. He swore by this. I was trying to tell him a casino wouldn't do this, it would give the player an edge, but he was adament, and saying "Yeah, Yeah, my friend cleaned up!"

So I'm thinking one of three things happened. Either the 2/12 both payed triple, giving 0% edge. Or there was no 2/12 and 5 added again 0% edge. Or a 5 instead of the 9, edge remaining the same.

Anyone here hear of a special field bet in, or near St. Louis, or at least a special promotion.
AZDuffman
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May 6th, 2012 at 3:36:29 PM permalink
Maybe the guy confused the Big 6/8 as being part of the field. On some layouts I could see a newbie thinking it was all one bet.
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CrapsForever
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May 6th, 2012 at 4:07:40 PM permalink
In Horseshoe Hammonds in Indiana, they have a bet on the craps table called Low Dice/High Dice in the corner of the layout where you'll usually see the Big 6/8 bet.

Low Dice covers 2,3,4,5,6 High Dice covers 8,9,10,11,12. It's a one roll bet, pays 1:1 on all bets except 2 &12 which pays 5:1.
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ewjones080
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May 6th, 2012 at 4:46:45 PM permalink
Quote: CrapsForever

In Horseshoe Hammonds in Indiana, they have a bet on the craps table called Low Dice/High Dice in the corner of the layout where you'll usually see the Big 6/8 bet.

Low Dice covers 2,3,4,5,6 High Dice covers 8,9,10,11,12. It's a one roll bet, pays 1:1 on all bets except 2 &12 which pays 5:1.



That sounds like what he was talking about, because he was saying there was a lot more numbers. This sounds about right, if a bunch of shooters roll a couple of twelves or twos and seven out, you can just bet both, pushing every roll, then collected 4 on 2 and 12. This must've been it.
CrapsForever
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May 6th, 2012 at 5:47:05 PM permalink
Quote: ewjones080

That sounds like what he was talking about, because he was saying there was a lot more numbers. This sounds about right, if a bunch of shooters roll a couple of twelves or twos and seven out, you can just bet both, pushing every roll, then collected 4 on 2 and 12. This must've been it.



I didn't notice it until the end of my craps session. I played the high dice, rolled a 12 and got $50 for my $10 bet. Apparently, a lot of people were playing both sides at the same time, hoping for the 2 or 12; only the 7 hurts you. Not a bad play at all, wonder the house edge on that compared to a regular field bet?
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May 6th, 2012 at 7:07:45 PM permalink
Quote: CrapsForever

I didn't notice it until the end of my craps session. I played the high dice, rolled a 12 and got $50 for my $10 bet. Apparently, a lot of people were playing both sides at the same time, hoping for the 2 or 12; only the 7 hurts you. Not a bad play at all, wonder the house edge on that compared to a regular field bet?

The house edge is double the field bet. The field bet has a house edge of 1/36, this high/low would be 2/36.

Think about it. The high and low numbers cancel out. But you get an extra four pays on a 2 or 12, but you lose 6 out of 36 on a 7.
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ewjones080
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May 7th, 2012 at 3:04:26 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

The house edge is double the field bet. The field bet has a house edge of 1/36, this high/low would be 2/36.

Think about it. The high and low numbers cancel out. But you get an extra four pays on a 2 or 12, but you lose 6 out of 36 on a 7.



Yep. Except in Iowa, all the casino's I've been to at least, pay double on both 2/12, so this would have the same edge. But your loss could end up being double, if you typically play $10 in the field, but do $10 in each of the high and low.

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