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bushman
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April 15th, 2012 at 10:12:52 AM permalink
I heard on a local radio station that Sandia Casino, near Albuquerque, NM has introduced what I believe they are calling "No Vig Craps." They stated that they are offering free Buy bets on the 4 and 10, much like Santa Ana Star Casino offers, near Bernalillo, NM. I have yet to confirm it, and don't know of any, if at all, particulars. However, I will try to get out there later this week to see what the story is. This would be very nice to Albuquerque residents, as it is a shorter drive (albeit, neither is too long) than to Bernalillo.
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odiousgambit
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April 15th, 2012 at 12:57:38 PM permalink
Love the idea that competition can actually be making this happen.
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ten2win
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April 15th, 2012 at 2:26:09 PM permalink
I played craps for an hour on this past Friday(13th) at Sandia.

They were still paying 9:5 on the 4&10 place bets with buying allowed at $20.

Hopefully it happens soon so they are more competitive with Route 66 and Santa Ana Star which both have free buys on the 4&10 at $5.
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bushman
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April 15th, 2012 at 2:40:25 PM permalink
Nice to hear the Route 66 has the free Buy bet, as well. I don't do much gambling in Albuquerque, thus, I was unaware of the free Buy bet there, as well, at $5.00. I will try to find out as soon as I can. Want to say the commercial ran, either Friday evening, or Saturday evening.
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100xOdds
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April 15th, 2012 at 3:39:50 PM permalink
$5 limit!!??! i never knew there was a limit.

hey wiz, you might want to update your wizardofodds craps page to say vig free 4/10 is $5 max.
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pacomartin
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April 15th, 2012 at 4:30:25 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

$5 limit!!??! i never knew there was a limit.

hey wiz, you might want to update your wizardofodds craps page to say vig free 4/10 is $5 max.



The website has not been updated to indicate that there is now a limit:
Enjoy the best odds in New Mexico including free buy on the four and 10, the best prop bets in the US and 10X odds!
The table has the words free buy stenciled on to the 4 and 10.

The video says that a 2 or a 12 on the field bet pays 3:1, so there is no house advantage on that bet either. I presume that bet is also limited to $5.

So you could make a free field bet, a free buy on the 4/10, and 10x odds on the pass or don't pass line. That's a lot of action with no house advantage.
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FleaStiff
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April 15th, 2012 at 5:39:35 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

That's a lot of action with no house advantage.

I've heard it takes alot to get those moribund, manana-oriented casinos to do anything.
bushman
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April 15th, 2012 at 6:40:25 PM permalink
I don't think anyone has ever stated there was a limit of $5.00 on the free Buy bet. I think we're all just looking to get the bet for the lowest possible price our bankroll can handle. I know that I don't want to start off with anything more than $5, even at a fair bet. I know that I have increased my Buy bet at Santa Ana, and still had the free Buy bet.
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ahiromu
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April 15th, 2012 at 6:54:43 PM permalink
Ok so... they have a free buy on the 4/10 but only on $5 bets.

Can someone tell me what they give you if you just say "Give me a 4 and 10". I'm wondering if you have to explicitly state "buy" or they just assume that you're placing it for a 9:5 payout.
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FleaStiff
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April 15th, 2012 at 7:33:54 PM permalink
A buy bet should always have the word "buy" used by the bettor and the dealer should use a "buy" lammer.

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