7craps
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June 26th, 2011 at 12:09:34 PM permalink
Just played this automated Craps 'slot machine' at Fantasy Casino in Indio, CA (south of Palm Springs)
Company site: HERE
Video HERE
The company's website does not have a direct email for game comments and reviews, maybe it will shortly.
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FleaStiff
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June 26th, 2011 at 12:48:16 PM permalink
Strange. I would have expected electronic dice with perhaps some display dice as a decoration.
Rules not known by programmer? That is not a surprise.
Buttons with no acknowledgment is not a surprise either.

If you don't think its random... pounce on it.

I just wonder how this complies with California laws that even on Indian reservations do not permit any wager to be settled solely by dice.
odiousgambit
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June 26th, 2011 at 12:53:36 PM permalink
I would find it irresistible to play the Don't... not my advice to you, but I'm just saying.
"Baccarat is a game whereby the croupier gathers in money with a flexible sculling oar, then rakes it home. If I could have borrowed his oar I would have stayed." Mark Twain .................... So it's like love? I don't think craps is like love. I think craps is a fun random game, sometimes exhilarating, sometimes infuriating. If you try to control it, chances are it'll drive you nuts and you'll end up losing a lot of money. ... wait, craps *IS* like love! MathExtremist
7craps
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June 26th, 2011 at 1:16:19 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I would find it irresistible to play the Don't... not my advice to you, but I'm just saying.


After the first 3-4 hours that is what we did exactly. At first I was not counting the actual # of 7s, but had to go back to my notes for the running count.

It brought us back up and gave us a net profit but looking back I was thinking all the time is this really happening?
A 7 every 3 rolls or so?

They would also come in large streaks. 3, 4 or 5 in a row. That kills a few don't bets. So laying the point became very profitable and laying all the numbers on the comeout worked well as long as you could turn them ON, since the default was Lays and hardways were always OFF on the comeout roll.
Then you think they will slow down for a bit, no way.
I wonder if it was because the dice were worn uneven and they were no longer producing random rolls.

I still do not trust the Indian Casinos. never have and never will.
Let us see if the game makes its way to Nevada casinos
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
Alan
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June 26th, 2011 at 1:41:22 PM permalink
That newscaster at the end of the video must know something about the game...six the hardway, six the hardway...lol

-Alan
guido111
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June 26th, 2011 at 2:17:46 PM permalink
Quote: Alan

That newscaster at the end of the video must know something about the game...six the hardway, six the hardway...lol

-Alan


I caught that one also.

Electronic table games. The wave of the near future? I do not think so.

If you do not like them, do not play them, I say.

I played Rapid Craps recently and after 1 year of being in a Las Vegas Casino (Bill's) it still is very slow and will not win over many experienced Craps players.
cclub79
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June 26th, 2011 at 2:20:13 PM permalink
>>>My friend hit a 2 at 30 to 1 with $40 bet, a $1240 payout and the machine locked him out for further play as it generated a W2G payout, just like a slot machine. Took 15 minutes and he was NOT able to make or even have any access to HIS $1500 that was in the machine.
WTF?!?
That cost him about $700 lost in the next 10 rolls.
That feature really SUCKS for a high roller!!!<<<<

This was one of my major problems with some of the Pennsylvania electronic Table games when they started. I was going up and down one day and bet something like $220 on a BJ hand. I split the hand, and doubled 1 of the splits and won $660, meaning I was 'paid out' $1320. That locked the game and made me wait for a W2. I didn't even net a $1200 win, it was only $660. They were extremely slow in getting to me, and when they did they were like "Wow! Big winner! Congrats!" I was like "Well, not really, half of that is my bet, I really have to have a W2?" I continued to try to explain it to the slot attendant but to no avail. Nice that they expect me to report $660 of my own bet as a win.
FleaStiff
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June 26th, 2011 at 3:23:13 PM permalink
Quote: 7craps

I still do not trust the Indian Casinos. never have and never will.


My sentiments exactly. They are close by... that is their only advantage. There is no other.
Sure you may think they are trying to measure up but I just don't think they equal Vegas in quality or honesty.
teddys
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June 27th, 2011 at 8:46:18 AM permalink
So you made money by playing on the don'ts?

I've played the game. It's at some casinos in AZ.

I like it. Much better than Shufflemaster's electronic version IMO. I like the physical dice. I think you can play sic bo at the same time people are playing craps. $1 - 3x4x5x odds here. No free drinks.

Never seen anything weird with the seven. As a matter of fact, I have gotten on some pretty hot rolls.

The record rolls feature is completely busted here too. Been stuck at 10 for days and days.

By the way, did you figure out what country the machines come from? The text on the display kept telling me to "stake" my bet. Near as I can tell from the website they are based out of Slovenia ...
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
Alan
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June 27th, 2011 at 9:27:57 AM permalink
Couldn't they come up with something a little more entertaining than that dice vibrating do-dad; like some kind of automated dice tosser? At least you'd get to see them fly!

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