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clarkacal
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May 21st, 2011 at 11:26:35 AM permalink
When watchmewin hits an inevitable cold streak with the dice, and sevens out collecting nothing in 7 or 8 out of 10 full betting spreads, how will he rationalize it?
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May 21st, 2011 at 11:38:04 AM permalink
Quote: clarkacal

When watchmewin hits an inevitable cold streak with the dice, and sevens out collecting nothing in 7 or 8 out of 10 full betting spreads, how will he rationalize it?



Love it. Keep it up clarkcal.
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10042-woes-black-sheep-game-ii/#post151727
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May 21st, 2011 at 2:16:55 PM permalink
Quote: clarkacal

how will he rationalize it?


When you folks set up these sorts of polls, you really should put in two additional choices--none of the above and all of the above.

As for this one, if the poster is a slopover from a forum elsewhere, he may well blame casino manipulation of under-the-table magnets or dice with weighted pips. That's why we need those open-ended choices. Our imaginations yearn to roam wild.
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May 21st, 2011 at 2:28:24 PM permalink
If there is one thing I've learned from polls on WoV, it's there is always someone unhappy with the choices.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 1:43:00 AM permalink
I want to know who voted " He was wrong about his system, it isn't profitable" LMAO. Like anyone who is delusional enough to believe in a betting system to begin with, would ever say that! I voted "people are not throwing the dice the right way" because if he believes he has a betting system to beat the HA. I will bet anything he believes in dice setting LOL
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May 22nd, 2011 at 1:59:45 AM permalink
Obamacare and a few bad Field bets.
I have a bewitched egg that I use to play VP with and I have net over 900k with it.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 8:47:48 AM permalink
Pretty funny clark... i like it!

To address your rationalizations pole:

1) The Casino Cheated: Never happen. They don't need to.

2) Didnt choose the right table: Highly improbable. A large part of my successes are due to the fact that I understand how valuable 'the right' table is and I know where and when to go. That is something that statistically can not be measured, therefore subject for much scrutiny.. but I really don't care. I know how to win.. period. Ask any dealer if they believe in hot or cold tables. Rhythm and Flow baby. You will never find me on a crowded table and I always bring the positive energy. And Im in and out before you can blink an eye with a W.

3) Didnt have the proper mindset: Only when hot waitress walk by and I get their number.

4) People weren't rolling the dice correctly: Nope, if I spot that someone is placing dice and moving them around like they know what they are doing, I run.

5) I was wrrrra wrrra, I was wrrrooooo, wrrooonnn. Well I know what you were trying to say: Ive seen crazier things happen
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:14:46 AM permalink
So which one did you vote for WatchMeWin?
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:18:11 AM permalink
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:30:54 AM permalink
Quote: gofaster87

Why do you guys post polls or threads like this?



For the drama
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:32:28 AM permalink
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:32:40 AM permalink
My vote is that although comical, your list of rationalizations do have merit....... for the mass market. However, there are a very select few of us that know how to consistently rack up W's. Its not about the statistical analysis of probabilty of dice rolls over a billion rolls. Its about knowing where, when, and how.. Rhythm & Flow. It cant be taught, you just have to experience the ebbs and flows over a very long period of time and figure it out. But i will say this.... stay off a crowded table, run when they take forever between rolls ( people throwing money in the middle of a roll, negative people cursing getting pissed, someone playing with the for minutes before he/she shoots thinking they can place the dice correctly, etc ). And always play when you see a virgin shooter who has no fear or knowledge of what they are doing. The energy is real! Get in and get out before you give it back. If you play the pass line, you are doomed.. and you have to stay around.

Gude Lock!
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:33:42 AM permalink
Quote: gofaster87

Let him believe what he wants. If it works for him, more power to him.



Agreed, but he comes in here bragging about what he knows and telling us he has a successful system that we should believe in!
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:38:03 AM permalink
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WatchMeWin
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:38:43 AM permalink
Not bragging... well i guess I am a little. But at the base of it all, Im just sharing my experiences and suggestions. I wish everyone well and hope you all win. Do what you gotta do. Just ask yourself this.... How many times have you been up and didn't walk away a winner when you could have?
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:39:06 AM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

However, there are a very select few of us that know how to consistently rack up W's...



Perhaps it is true you have done nothing much to deserve the slings and arrows. However, there is a bit of braggadocio here that is bound to attract attention. And reason to suspect you want to not just brag but finally get around to *selling* that system. Then it will be open season and hopefully you will look like a porcupine with all the arrows, should such a thing develop.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:40:27 AM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

My vote is that although comical, your list of rationalizations do have merit....... for the mass market. However, there are a very select few of us that know how to consistently rack up W's. Its not about the statistical analysis of probabilty of dice rolls over a billion rolls. Its about knowing where, when, and how.. Rhythm & Flow. It cant be taught, you just have to experience the ebbs and flows over a very long period of time and figure it out. But i will say this.... stay off a crowded table, run when they take forever between rolls ( people throwing money in the middle of a roll, negative people cursing getting pissed, someone playing with the for minutes before he/she shoots thinking they can place the dice correctly, etc ). And always play when you see a virgin shooter who has no fear or knowledge of what they are doing. The energy is real! Get in and get out before you give it back. If you play the pass line, you are doomed.. and you have to stay around.

Gude Lock!



Yeah but which one did you vote for? Say something goes wrong and you have a losing session, why did it happen?
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:42:39 AM permalink
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:44:02 AM permalink
You can put your theory to rest odious, Im net selling anything. If you read what I wrote... it cant be taugth, you have to experience the ebbs and flows yourself.

I will say, however, I do love the fact that I know how to make money consistently and no one else does. It makes me feel good along with the money! Lets move on the the conversation of hot waitresses that... well, nevermind.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:51:28 AM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

You can put your theory to rest odious, Im net selling anything. If you read what I wrote... it cant be taugth, you have to experience the ebbs and flows yourself.

I will say, however, I do love the fact that I know how to make money consistently and no one else does. It makes me feel good along with the money! Lets move on the the conversation of hot waitresses that... well, nevermind.



I hope you don't think I dislike you or am mad at you WMW. Not the case.

So let me get this straight. Gambling is a game of...experience?

Also, when you head out to Vegas you may want to check out the Spearmint Rhino if you haven't before. Try leaving there ahead!
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:51:51 AM permalink
To answer your question clark... when i do lose, its usually because i was a very naughty boy the night before. lol
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:54:05 AM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

To answer your question clark... when i do lose, its usually because i was a very naughty boy the night before. lol



But how does what you do the night before....nevermind, I don't think I want to know lol
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:57:29 AM permalink
kharma of course! haha Yep, ive been to rhino... leaving ahead is tough, but its also a subjective view. There is value to have a great time and taking down a nasty ho. lol
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:58:23 AM permalink
where you from clark?
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May 22nd, 2011 at 10:01:45 AM permalink
I live in S. Carolina, you?
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May 22nd, 2011 at 10:23:29 AM permalink
SC? Are you a bookie by chance? I met a guy in Vegas who was from SC thats a bookie. Funny Cat.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 10:42:04 AM permalink
No, not a bookie. Where r u from?
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May 22nd, 2011 at 10:43:19 AM permalink
new york
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May 22nd, 2011 at 12:16:53 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

My vote is that although comical, your list of rationalizations do have merit....... for the mass market. However, there are a very select few of us that know how to consistently rack up W's. Its not about the statistical analysis of probability of dice rolls over a billion rolls. Its about knowing where, when, and how.. Rhythm & Flow. It cant be taught, you just have to experience the ebbs and flows over a very long period of time and figure it out. But i will say this.... stay off a crowded table, run when they take forever between rolls ( people throwing money in the middle of a roll, negative people cursing getting pissed, someone playing with the for minutes before he/she shoots thinking they can place the dice correctly, etc ). And always play when you see a virgin shooter who has no fear or knowledge of what they are doing. The energy is real! Get in and get out before you give it back. If you play the pass line, you are doomed.. and you have to stay around.

Gude Lock!



Well watchmewin.......I can say this. It has been a great thread to read, the entertainment of it was great! And I wish you all the best and may every time you play, I hope you are a winner. As I hope every craps shooter is a winner because it such a great game. Although sadly they will not all be winners. They dont build casinos because people constantly win. You say your system is "learned" and that you need to spot the "hot table" and as you say find the "rhythm & flow". I can tell you saying stuff like that on these boards is not gonna get you much mileage, and will most likely get you a lot of laughs. I guess what im asking you is.....are you implying that 2 plastic cubes with pips carved in them(the dice) have some sort of memory? And that the dice know when the table is "hot"?

Secondly.....You said in another post something like "how many times could you have walked away a winner". The answer is many many times LOL. and sometimes I stayed and lost. But you have to look at it this way, most people are gambling for entertainment. Thats like saying I was gonna spend $15 to go see a movie but I didn't go see it.. YEAH I won $15.....You may have not spent the $15 but you didn't get any entertainment either.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 12:36:17 PM permalink
great question vert. me ask you this.... do you believe that you can pick up a wireless phone without any cords attached to it and call someone 5000 miles away and have a conversaton with them? Do you believe you can pick up a remote control device and push a button and have your tv go off and on and sitch channels? call me a nut, but Im assuming that the anwer to these questions is yes. What makes it possible? Energy transferred. We cant see it, hear it, feel it, taste it, or smell it, but it is real. Our entire existence and everything on this earth is made of or from energy. You dont have to believe it and most people dont because they cant see it, but it is real.... in my opinion.

regarding your second question, if most people are gambling for entertainment, that is great. they shouldnt and dont expect to win. so your analogy is off point. if you are looking at it as an entertainment expense , then that is great and justifyable if and when you lose.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 2:18:02 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

great question vert. me ask you this.... do you believe that you can pick up a wireless phone without any cords attached to it and call someone 5000 miles away and have a conversaton with them? Do you believe you can pick up a remote control device and push a button and have your tv go off and on and sitch channels? call me a nut, but Im assuming that the anwer to these questions is yes. What makes it possible? Energy transferred. We cant see it, hear it, feel it, taste it, or smell it, but it is real. Our entire existence and everything on this earth is made of or from energy. You dont have to believe it and most people dont because they cant see it, but it is real.... in my opinion.



Now it's getting really interesting!

Too bad I can't edit the poll choices to include "an electromagnetic pulse".

So I'm curious WMW, why hit and run? Why not play until you sense a change in the electrical current?
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May 22nd, 2011 at 2:54:01 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

great question vert. me ask you this.... do you believe that you can pick up a wireless phone without any cords attached to it and call someone 5000 miles away and have a conversaton with them? Do you believe you can pick up a remote control device and push a button and have your tv go off and on and sitch channels? call me a nut, but Im assuming that the anwer to these questions is yes. What makes it possible? Energy transferred. We cant see it, hear it, feel it, taste it, or smell it, but it is real. Our entire existence and everything on this earth is made of or from energy. You dont have to believe it and most people dont because they cant see it, but it is real.... in my opinion.

regarding your second question, if most people are gambling for entertainment, that is great. they shouldnt and dont expect to win. so your analogy is off point. if you are looking at it as an entertainment expense , then that is great and justifyable if and when you lose.



uuuuuhhhhhh yeeahh??? no comment! LOL
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May 22nd, 2011 at 4:02:02 PM permalink
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new york



New York City?
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May 22nd, 2011 at 4:04:32 PM permalink
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