DeMango
Joined: Feb 2, 2010
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April 13th, 2017 at 4:41:44 PM permalink
Quote: VideoBJ

Is there a double standard here?

When DeMango uses the term "Hey Einstein", you don't see a rudeness comment.

5 posts in 7 years here! Glad to know I woke up Rip van Winkle!
VideoBJ
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
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April 20th, 2017 at 2:53:07 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

5 posts in 7 years here! Glad to know I woke up Rip van Winkle!

Hey DeMango, why do you like to throw INSULTS at people?
beachbumbabs
Joined: May 21, 2013
• Posts: 9045
April 20th, 2017 at 10:31:18 PM permalink
Quote: VideoBJ

Is there a double standard here?

When DeMango uses the term "Hey Einstein", you don't see a rudeness comment.

But when JoelDeze makes a "measured response" to DeMango's rude comment, it is JoelDeze who gets the warning.

It would be nice if moderator treated each person fairly.

If you look at my actual post, I quoted both of them, specifically the Hey Einstein garbage. I was warning DeMango fully as much as Joel. Trying to nip the rudeness in the bud before it got beyond that exchange of "pleasantries". Curious how you missed that.
"If the house lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game."
RS
Joined: Feb 11, 2014
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April 21st, 2017 at 12:41:22 AM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

I just wanted to throw out a strategy I've been using in Craps now, which is working rather well. I call it "Anything But 7 with Odds".

The goals of this strategy are:

Keep Risk Low
Optimize Survival
Reduce Overall Rolls to achieve a 100% return

The highs are that you have a high probability to receive a 100% return by Roll #5 (including the come out). Roll 6 onward is optional but I'll outline the strategy in full.

Example Table: Min \$10 with 5x Odds

On the come out roll there's no bet. Wait for the point to be set. If the point is not set on the very first roll, move to the odds section.

If the point is set on the first roll during come out, in this example I'll start with \$100 risk (5/6/8/Field) for (\$25/\$30/\$30/\$15) The example below shows what monetary return would occur on every roll starting with this bet. The avg return is \$19.50 and the number of rolls it would take to achieve a maximum return is approximately 5.13 rolls.

For those of you who prefer units, if the base if \$5 and \$6 (6/8), the units I'm using are (5/5/5/3).

DICERTN
230
315
415
520
620
7-100
820
915
1015
1115
1230
AVG R19.5
ROLL R5.13

On Roll #2, Roll #3, these bets do not change.

Starting on Roll #4, change the wager to: \$61 risk (5/6/8/Field) for (\$15/\$18/\$18/\$10). For those of you who prefer units, if the base if \$5 and \$6 (6/8), the units I'm using are (3/3/3/2).

DICERTN
220
310
410
511
611
7-61
811
910
1010
1110
1220
AVG R12.3
ROLL R4.96

The avg return drops to \$12.30 with a roll return of under 5. However, charting the first 5 rolls we get:

RollAVG RRiskSurvival
1 \$- \$- 1.000000
2 \$20 \$100 0.888889
3 \$20 \$100 0.772119
4 \$12 \$61 0.667353
5 \$12 \$61 0.576129
Total \$64 \$61

Effectively, this brings the 6 roll minimum down to 5 rolls before achieving a 100% return (or 0% risk). The avg roll before 7-out per person is roughly 8.5 rolls, but our survival is over 57% at all times.

At this point, you have four options available:

1. Play on for another 3 rolls and take everything down if you survive.
2. Play on until 7-out, press/pull strategy.
3. Take down all bets and take the 100% profit to the next roller.

I will outline how to take advantage of Odds.

Odds

This strategy should be played when one of the following events occurs:

* You are on roll #6 (using the strategy above).
You are on roll #3+ and the shooter did not set a point on the first roll of a come out roll.

Start by placing \$10/\$10 in the Come and Don't Come boxes. You only lose if a 12 is rolled. See the table below:

Roll ofDon't Come StrategyCome StrategyHouse Edge
4Max Odds on DCNo Odds0.83
5No OddsMax Odds on Come0.85
6No OddsMax Odds on Come0.85
8No OddsMax Odds on Come0.85
9No OddsMax Odds on Come0.85
10Max Odds on DCNo Odds0.83

On a 12 you lose the come bet and DC is a push (alternatively you could place a \$1 bet on midnight), on 3,7,11 you lose or win nothing. On any other roll, both the DC and Come moves to the new point. Based on the table you then place Odds only. This moves the HE under 1%.

You can also attempt to take advantage of streaks by choosing to place Odds on the Come (if the current shooter has already hit a point) or just on the DC (if the current shooter has not yet hit a point). This part is up to you.

The second part to the strategy (if you start from the beginning) gives you a \$50 dollar free wager with house money on a low house edge bet. How much risk appetite you have is up to you. Even if you lose the \$50 bet, you should have finished with \$10+ on the roller.

You also have the option to change Odds from the come to the DC and vice versa at any time.

Can you explain this in further detail? Thanks.
"should of played 'Go Fish' today ya peasant" -typoontrav
DeMango
Joined: Feb 2, 2010