MrV
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January 13th, 2017 at 2:06:37 PM permalink
I hadn't thought of this one before, but I think I'll try it soon:

Bet thirty two across.

if the four or five hits, put six bucks on the six; if nine or ten hits, put six bucks on the eight.

Do not press six or eight: if they hit, take the profit and keep it up, hoping to press via hits on adjoining numbers.
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January 13th, 2017 at 2:16:57 PM permalink
The six and eight are most likely to hit again... so why not press your luck on the event that is most likely to occur? Or rather MORE likely to occur since at all times SEVEN is the MOST LIKELY event to take place?
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January 13th, 2017 at 2:23:43 PM permalink
I usually do that, placing six and eight only.

This is just another play, a way to hopefully build up the six/eight while taking a profit every time they hit.

YMMV
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January 13th, 2017 at 2:45:45 PM permalink
If you're at a $5 or $10 table, try this:
a) Buy in for $200 or $300. Get only green chips. Keep these 8 or 12 chips separate from anything else you play with.
b) Start a series by tossing out a single green chip as $12 each 6 and 8. Set the $1 aside. Obviously if you lose these bets you're -24.
c) Each hit, press *both* the 6 and 8. I generally use the following progression:
$18 (set $2 aside; if you lose here you're -22),
$30 (use the $3 you set aside before; if you lose here you're out the whole $25),
$42 (pocket $11; if you lose here your net is -14),
$60 (pocket $13; if you lose here your net is -1),
$90 (pocket $10; if you lose here you're still +9),
$120 (pocket $45, now you start to make money).
d) It's rare to get to $120 but I've done it a few times. You can either keep pressing or sit there with the $240 total action, waiting for 7-out. It's especially exciting when there is a streak of five or six 6s or 8s to start off and suddenly you've got large stacks on the layout while everyone else is sitting there.
e) Regardless of whether you win or lose, make the next wager using what's left of your original 8 or 12 chips, don't dip into your winnings. When those initial chips are depleted, count up your winnings and decide whether you want to keep going.
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January 13th, 2017 at 3:02:20 PM permalink
If there are boxes being thrown, then you are going to win regardless of how you play, unless a dont player.. How much or how little is the variable there unless you power press and never take any profits in. Inevitably, the 7 is going to wipe out the board... and more often than not, you wont get even 3-4 boxes out of a shooter. Once in a great while, you will see that long roll that you dream of, but it is quite rare. So, how about taking some larger risk off the bat, say 640/650 across (100 per number) and after you hit 1 or 2 numbers, go off on your bets. You now have anywhere from 140 to 390 profit. Now walk away a winner. If you need to stay on the table for your fix and want to play a while, then take part of your profit and shoot for the moon....but you will most likely lose that and then do it again and again because your pissed. Management and discipline are key. Yes, if the dreaded 7 comes within 2 rolls , then tuck in your tail and try another time. If it happens over and over to you , then stay away from the tables and try a different game.
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January 13th, 2017 at 3:31:05 PM permalink
80% chance that 1 number hits.
64% chance that 2 numbers hit.

If this works for you, great!! You're giving the casino limited advantage.

My travel time to a casino is 90m each way. Spending 1 minute at the table doesn't do it for me.
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January 13th, 2017 at 3:39:07 PM permalink
MDK = HPS
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January 16th, 2017 at 12:09:16 PM permalink
I was in AC this weekend with friends. They were barking about taking down the house in craps. I gladly joined them on the tables. I tried to expain my logic to them about being Disciplined and Expectations. Hit n run and don't get too greedy. Long story short, we all played on the same table, same shooters, same time. I went off on my numbers frequently... just looked for a couple of boxes from each shooter unless someone very negative shot or slowed up the rhythm of the dice.

After coloring up, I was up 300% and each one of my friends lost everything. They could not go off on their bets and would not manage their rack wisely. One buddy tried going back and forth between pass and don't pass... that was comical, as every time he switched, he would lose. (talk about dice having eyes.. boy were they were watching him ..lol) The Only way to play the game is to play the probabilities to your favor and hit n run. Your only advantage in craps is being able to take down your bets when you want and being disciplined. MDK=HPS
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January 16th, 2017 at 12:29:13 PM permalink
But when you come down after a hit or two you give up the chance, unlikely though it may be, that the shooter will go on a tear, giving you many hits before sevening out.

This rare event helps make up for all the losses you'll sustain when the shooter sevens out before any of your box numbers hit.
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January 16th, 2017 at 12:50:06 PM permalink
I understand your logic completely.... but you have to be in the right place at the right time to hit that huge roll. That is what everyone dreams of in craps... and that's why people stay on to long and usually lose. If I were to stay on every shooter waiting for that one long roll, I would go broke way before I probably even see a remotely good roll. I dont go for the homerun swing every time, I like to bat in runs by lots of singles. They add up... and at the end of the day, the money you will have lost by staying working every roll waiting for the huge roll will be far greater than what you may make on that one roll if you catch it. make sense?

Trust me... ive been there. Ive racked my head so many times in the past staying on shooters.... just rarely pays off. So many times ive said... f!##, i should have gone off that roll. How many times have you said that? haha You have the control.

Now, if I want to go for that huge roll, I only do it when Im up already with a portion of my profit. If Im up 500, I will go 160 across and let it ride and power press for a while. If I lose it... so be it. Walk away and dont chase.

If 7 out comes right away... well then, know matter how I played it, I will have lost. Yes, I will have to make it up a few times around now. If it comes 2x in a row. I go home.
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January 16th, 2017 at 1:47:57 PM permalink
Here's a way to stay on board AFTER locking up a profit.

Bet six and eight, $30 each.

After one or two hits, make it look like $22 inside.

Then either alternate same bet, press, or whatever you want: just keep in the game til seven out.
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January 16th, 2017 at 1:58:42 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

So many times ive said... ****, i should have gone off that roll.



WatchMeWin, you may want to edit out that expletive before you get suspended.
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January 16th, 2017 at 2:08:00 PM permalink
Yes, you could do that and limit your initial risk by only having a 6 n 8. It is the same principal as I mentioned by taking a quick number, then using a portion of it to ride out the roll. However, the issue with that is you are limiting your chances of winning on the first few rolls by 39%... if the 4,5,9,10 come (14 combinations into 36 total outcomes =38.8%) , then you are losing out on those opportunities... and many times those numbers come before 6,8 ever do and seven out before you ever see the 6 or 8. Again, I understand your limited risk, but there is greater probability of hitting a number if you have all covered. I will take greater risk for greater probability.

Would you rather buy a stock that has a high probability of increasing 10% and risk a large amount, as opposed to risking a low amount on a stock that has a high probability of losing 90% ?
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January 16th, 2017 at 2:25:07 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

I understand your logic completely.... but you have to be in the right place at the right time to hit that huge roll. That is what everyone dreams of in craps... and that's why people stay on to long and usually lose. If I were to stay on every shooter waiting for that one long roll, I would go broke way before I probably even see a remotely good roll. I dont go for the homerun swing every time, I like to bat in runs by lots of singles. They add up... and at the end of the day, the money you will have lost by staying working every roll waiting for the huge roll will be far greater than what you may make on that one roll if you catch it. make sense?

Trust me... ive been there. Ive racked my head so many times in the past staying on shooters.... just rarely pays off. So many times ive said... f!#/, i should have gone off that roll. How many times have you said that? haha You have the control.

Now, if I want to go for that huge roll, I only do it when Im up already with a portion of my profit. If Im up 500, I will go 160 across and let it ride and power press for a while. If I lose it... so be it. Walk away and dont chase.

If 7 out comes right away... well then, know matter how I played it, I will have lost. Yes, I will have to make it up a few times around now. If it comes 2x in a row. I go home.



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January 16th, 2017 at 3:09:12 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

WatchMeWin, you may want to edit out that expletive before you get suspended.



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January 16th, 2017 at 3:31:47 PM permalink
So, if you start out betting across, just increase the base bet, say up to three or four units each, then after a couple hits regress to $32 inside.
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January 16th, 2017 at 3:40:57 PM permalink
It depends on your risk capital and risk tolerance. If you have say 200 that you are willing to risk. I would go 96 across (15 per number .. 6 n 8 would be 18) . If you hit 3 numbers, you will be up around 63 or more dollars. Now you can go down to 32 across and ride it out if you want and press up progressively while taking some profits here and there.
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