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AlanMendelson
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September 9th, 2015 at 5:40:09 AM permalink
In Vegas it won't matter when you buy in. At worst you'll get some dirty looks.

But I know one card casino in LA where if you buy in at the wrong time and the dealer turns over a 7 you'd better have security drive you to your car.

Really-- is it really a problem to wait for the puck to be off or better -- wait for a new shooter?

In the old days the DEALERS would make you wait for a new shooter.
MrV
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September 9th, 2015 at 7:25:40 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I generally wait anymore till the puck is off. But if there are players making so many screwy bets that it takes the other dealers a while to sort it out, while the dealer close to me is not so busy, then I will buy in then.



This ^

The problem with buying in mid-roll is that it will slow down the game UNLESS you time it right.

Ideally you'd buy in after the dealer on your side of the table has paid off his prop action, and the dealer on the other end of the table has just started to pay off his.
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ThatDonGuy
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September 9th, 2015 at 10:51:04 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Really-- is it really a problem to wait for the puck to be off or better -- wait for a new shooter?


Not at all - in fact, I want until the puck is off, even if there's only one other player at the table, which is what happened when I entered a game at Downtown Grand last year. The other player even thanked me for waiting.

Buying into a game in the middle of a point smacks of trying to buy into a blackjack game in the middle of a deal. No, it's not the same, but it just comes across that way for some reason. Besides, the way I play (pass line and odds), why bother buying in if you're just going to have to wait before you bet?
Nostron
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September 10th, 2015 at 6:52:01 AM permalink
I always play blackjack first - then when I make my first approach to the craps table if I need or want to get in on the action quickly - I have some chips ready to go and dont slow the action down at all.

Otherwise - I wait til puck is off - even during a hot roll most people dont mind you jumping in right after a point is made - its a natural "relaxation" moment.
Wonko33
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September 10th, 2015 at 8:14:10 AM permalink
Newbie question, is it allowed to make cash bets , so you can get in without slowing things down so much?

If not , I think it is silly to have to wait to accommodate some idiotic superstition. I have my things too but I don't involve others into them.

Why doesn't the boxman take the money, prepare your chips while the next roll comes in and give them to you after? Then the rhythm doesn't get broken and people won't have to wait much and you just missed one roll.
So Wizard, still no basic strategy for strip poker huh?
dicesitter
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September 12th, 2015 at 7:19:08 AM permalink
Alan


It really comes down to being respectful. I always wait until the guy is out or makes a point.

What really upsets me is some guy comes to the table and throws his money all over and takes
10 minutes to gather and count it and then when asked for his bet he says he will wait.

We had a guy do that last year in Michigan, we were on a nice roll and he did that. To make matters
worse it was a sit down tub, and he would not sit down so I could not roll. IT took maybe 10 minutes or
more to get to the game, then a seven came he pissed and moaned because no one could roll. He got the
dice and every player on the table bet the don't pass, he had point 7 and got pissed and left, He wrecked what
had been a good table.

I just think these people are used to not respecting any one, why should the craps table be any different.

dicesetter

PS just got back from elk hunting, and had two great evenings on the table, one actually had to roll more
than 40 rolls at one time so Math can be happy that my stamina will hold up that long.
rudeboy99
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September 15th, 2015 at 5:01:18 AM permalink
Dicesitter hits a bullseye! Although a percentage of both players and crew can be pretty insensitive at times (there's an understatement), it doesn't hurt to treat the game itself with a bit of respect. You never want one of your actions to either slow down the shooter or cause him to abort his roll because you aren't staying out of the way. I tell beginners constantly, ( especially if they seem prone getting in the trajectory of the dice) "man, your most important job at this game is to make sure you stay out of the shooters way. I'll take care of everything else, but you make damn sure you know where the dice are at," On the subject of superstitions...around a dice table EVERYBODY is easily spooked... players, crew, boxmen ( usually the worst of the bunch )...the entire mindset of the game is impacted by sometimes stupid "mojo" that really don't amount to jack shit. Ignore the traditions at your own peril though, if you do something out of the ordinary, and the dice go south, you'll probably have a table full of haters giving you the stink eye.
mustangsally
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September 15th, 2015 at 7:27:15 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

But I know one card casino in LA where if you buy in at the wrong time and the dealer turns over a 7 you'd better have security drive you to your car.

please name that casino so i can see if this is true or false when i am there as the Angels are out-of-town-and-the-playoffs-2-they went-over! (I live close to LA)

Quote: AlanMendelson

Really-- is it really a problem to wait for the puck to be off or better -- wait for a new shooter?

this is suicide(?) for right-way bettors, even Frank Scoblete and Frank Sinatra (OMG! I AM so wonderful)
knows this (I was told this by 3 different Craps dealers at Caesars Palace in Vegas)

why wait for a new shooter?
that is so silly!
Even Tom Petty once said something like "the wa-a-a-aiting is the har dest part)

Every Dealer I have asked
say
to wait and buy-in (place your money on the table and not in the dealers hand(s)))))))))))))))));)
until the dice are in the center of the table











I guess they must be all wrong (let me see, I have asked over 161 of them this question)

Quote: AlanMendelson

In the old days the DEALERS would make you wait for a new shooter.

I asked my Uncle about this
as he is so OLD,
not as old as you

and also dealt Craps in Nevada casinos in the old days (B4 the year 2000)

He says, every boxman he knew were just fine with the un-written rule of a buy-in while the dice are in the center of the table. Never seen it where one had to wait until a new shooter
but he IS OLD, so take his words as a grain of salt (or whatever ever)

to me that sounds silly
but thank you for sharing

at least you are still famous
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mustangsally
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September 15th, 2015 at 7:36:00 AM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

What really upsets me is some guy comes to the table and throws his money all over and takes
10 minutes to gather and count it and then when asked for his bet he says he will wait.

this is wonderful!
Time to take down all your bets and Lay every number from 1 to 1,000,000 and HOP the 7

i win so much money in this type of situation
it is not funny
because i have to count it all, i like to spend way more than counting

the Dealers say I am just lucky it happened as i color up after that 7 out too (2)

some get happy with $6 and $10 and maybe $100 wins
I require a win of at least $1,000 on one roll or i ain't happy at all!

just ask my husband (Ahigh did without knowing he WAS me hubby)

thank you for sharing!

bet what the table gives you, i due say and due
and i due NOT have a lucky face, even after i put it on!
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MrV
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September 15th, 2015 at 7:51:56 AM permalink
Quote: Wonko33

Newbie question, is it allowed to make cash bets , so you can get in without slowing things down so much?



I suppose that you could, mid-roll, walk up to a table and when the dealer is looking at you drop a couple hundred dollar bills (or whatever amount you want buy in for) and say: "I'm buying in: place the six and eight for twelve dollars each, please."

But no, you cannot put cash on the layout in lieu of chips: only chips go on the felt to represent your bet, never cash.

And god help you if you try a call bet.
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