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What is the Actual House Edge on Blackjack?
| January 29th, 2010 at 11:45:17 AM permalink | |
| graylove Member since: Jan 29, 2010 Threads: 0 Posts: 1 | Hi Wizard, What do think a Players edge could be if they were a Good card counter with a perfect Strategy? I know it would depend on the houses rules. But just a rough average with basic BJ rules. Thanks |
| January 29th, 2010 at 12:49:27 PM permalink | |
| BenJammin Member since: Nov 1, 2009 Threads: 37 Posts: 114 | I think Hunches cost more than mistakes, at least in my case they do. I know basic strategy like the back of my hand, but I still deviate once in a blue moon if I get that "Feeling". One time a dealer pissed me off at Binion's Horse Shoe, (not by doing anything other than beat my pants off) so I went on a quest to kick her butt and left the table $300 up. I broke all the rules. But of course, that was the exception to the rule, but it sure was fun. If a little is good, more's got to be better! |
| February 5th, 2010 at 4:18:32 PM permalink | |
| jeremykay Member since: Feb 5, 2010 Threads: 0 Posts: 69 | What about the flip side... by how much do you think the house advantage goes down due to dealer errors? |
| February 5th, 2010 at 4:30:50 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 313 Posts: 6786 |
I tend to think it goes up because of dealer errors. In my opinion, about 80% of errors are in the dealer's favor. Of course, those are more likely to get challenged. Let's say players catch 60% of errors either way, but say nothing when it goes in their favor. So given there is an error, the probabilities are: 20% = Player's favor, player keeps his mouth shut. 48% = Dealer's favor, player opens his mouth. 32% = Dealer's favor, player didn't catch it. Of course these are rough estimates. It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
| February 5th, 2010 at 5:51:52 PM permalink | |
| dutch Member since: Nov 16, 2009 Threads: 0 Posts: 2 | Is that your hunch that 80% are in the houses favor or have you heard or read that figure? Just curious. I was at a roulette table one time and a new dealer was giving out 6 stacks of 20 chips when someone bought in with a $100. I bet he gave out $160 in free chips before the pit boss caught him. |
| February 5th, 2010 at 7:05:41 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 313 Posts: 6786 | Yes, that is my position, based on 23 years of playing. I think that is because: 1. Dealers also know the players are likely to speak up if a mistake goes against the player, giving them a safety net in that direction. 2. If the mistake goes against the house, the players won't give the dealer a chance to correct it. If surveillance catches the mistake, the dealer will have to answer for it later. I'm sure the dealers want to deal a perfect game, but the consequences of mistakes against the house are greater, so they likely err on the side of the house more. It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
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